Information on Jack Carey’s free energy claims

 

Let's try to sum up some of the outrageous claims Jack Carey has made in last few months about supposed devices developed by Confidential Technology in Flint, MI
 
1st        The Rotary Transformer Phase Converter allegedly uses electricity more "efficiently" but can not power a generator producing more power than the input power, even though claim is that 400 watts
input power produces 3 HP (2238 watts) on the three phase motor powering the air compressor.

NOTE: Jack claims only 110 VAC 9 amps (1KW) is needed for full load of 5 HP air compressor, 2.5 HP drill press and arc welder set for 100 amps all at full load. But he never could change the "30 amp screw in circuit  breaker" on the 12 gauge wire to 15 amp slow blow fuse. Even though National Electrical Code calls for only 20 amps on 12 gauge wire. Nor could Jack run the RTPC and that equipment from 1000 watt generator NOR could Jack connect a generator to the "5 HP" motor and get 3000 watts to  run other loads by using "wasted kinetic energy" and "unused frequencies" in the grid supplied electricity while using only 400 watts input.
 
2nd        Advanced atomic power source in a 5 gallon bucket, the only evidence offered is some charts that say the temperature rise of the water is greater than physics predicts for the small amount of Uranium 238 used. But no independent verification by qualified atomic energy experts was offered.
 
3rd        Advance power systems for automobiles that doesn't need gasoline or diesel fuel, will burn hydrogen or whatever, without pollution, etc.
 
4th        Developing "crash proof" passenger compartments for automobiles, but Jack has NO concept of energy dispersion, crush zones, deceleration, etc.
 
5th        Alleged permanent magnet motor that ran by itself, but had to be disassembled because it made a electromagnetic energy field around it that can damage DNA or other health problems in people. 

 
6th        Advanced permanent magnetic materials that have much stronger magnetic field than other materials and are not affected by heat.
 
7th        Electric current without ElectroMagneticField but no evidence of how it was measured or how a motor could be powered by electricity if there is no magnetic field since that is what makes motors go. 

 
8th        Jack Carey will be rich and famous when all this technology is introduced to the market and all the skeptical electrical  engineers and technicians, etc. will be out of a job since all of today's electrical theory will be obsolete.
 
Most of this "amazing technology" was allegedly developed by Wayne in his spare time from working at a factory. Wayne does not offer his advice to the company he works for to save them money on electricity even though most companies pay a bonus to employees that come up with ideas that save the company money. 
 
Wayne allegedly helped in the development of the General Motors "Impact" electric car prototype but did it in his spare time after work when they would sneak it over to his garage.
 
Although Wayne is supposed to be a super genius, it seems that he wants no university degrees or recognition nor the Nobel prize, etc. He doesn't believe any other scientist is even close to his understanding of electricity and magnetism, but doesn't want to appear arrogant. Gee, maybe Wayne should talk to Joseph Newman, he also claims to have developed "free energy" and has new theories of physics:
http://www.josephnewman.com
 
Jack Carey is just the "promoter" but knows nothing about the technical details. He sends crackpot letters to corporations promising them a chance to save lots of money on electricity or chance to make big profits from developing and licensing the technology of Confidential Technology. But then he wonders why large corporations don't respond favorably to crackpot letters that promise things that break the "laws of physics" and Jack insults them and has bad grammar & spelling.   Jack’s operation consists of haranguing people in prominent positions and then dropping their names as if they believe him.  Eric Krieg has had an open challenge out to Jack since the start of 2004 to even find a single person who either thinks Jack has something significant or feels Jack is rational.  As of the end of 2004, Jack has been unable to get anyone to correct Eric.
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Here are some contact names and phone numbers for  Confidential Technologies in Flint, MI

Jack Carey, jcarey9622@aol.com 810-618-9234 claims that Wayne Cochran invented a  Rotary Transformer Phase Converter that converts single phase power to three phase and will power 5 HP motor  on air compressor while using only 400 watts input. Claims  that 110 VAC 9 amps input power to RTPC powers 5 HP  motor on air compressor, 2.5 HP motor on drill press and  arc welder set for 100 amps all at full load.

Wayne died in December 2002 but Jack claims that development is going on with other technicians.

Direct Electronics 1815 Davidson Road, Flint, MI  satellite TV and cellphone store owned by Jack's son.

Jack Carey jcarey9622@aol.com  810-618-9234 (cellphone) John R Carey, Burton MI 48509 __________

Technician from Confidential Tech __________ Didn't know details of RTPC in Wayne's garage.

Marlene from Confidential Tech: marcraig@mindspring.com  Doesn't trust Jack Carey

Jack's wife ____________ (works as computer programer at Commerica Bank in Auburn Hills during day)


Keith, sells industrial equipment and sold RTPC before superior@blclinks.net  ____________

DG, rc_glider@hotmail.com  Lives in Saginaw and tried testing RTPC at someone's farm, but it didn't work. Also  talked to Wayne's family.

Mott Community College in Flint, MI was supposed to test RTPC since Sept. 2002 but never did.  www.mcc.edu 810-762-0200. Tom Crampton and Dave Roach are contacts.

Crampton, Thomas Regional Technology Center Project Office – Interim Executive Dean
RTC M-TEC (2700 E)
(810) 762-0506

Roach, David Technology - Technician
RTC M-TEC (2303)

 

 

J Carey claims that Dr. Carton Speck of Delphi has seen it but can not understand it, nor Alex Thomas of the Flint, MI commerce committee, even though he is expert on physics. But J Carey says the Alex Thomas endorsed Confidential Technology and is working to help them get started in production with a building, etc.

When I contacted Alex Thomas of Flint, he said they try to support any small business startup in Flint, MI but was unaware that J Carey claimed they where donating a building etc. to Confidential Technology.

 

Now in the 25 years since Wayne Cochron first started making RTPC for himself and friends, none of them seem to be able to connect a generator to that 4 HP or more motor powered by the RTPC using only 1 KW input to generate 4 HP (3KW) or more output to power their homes and save 66% on their electric bill. J Carey has NOT provided the name and contact information for someone else using a RTPC, nor has contacted Michigan State University just 40 miles or so west of Flint, MI in Lansing. Seems their science department would be interested in such a fundamental advancement in electricity and physics.

 

Infinite Energy magazine tested the RTPC but did not get reliable results. Also an Australian film crew is supposed to be coming to Flint, MI for documentary about "free energy" to film the RTPC along with a crew from Public Broadcasting Service. But none of them have actually been there yet or released the film/video.

 

Other amazing technology promoted by J Carey is: atomic energy inside a 5 gallon plastic bucket, medical diagnosis and cure in energy field, similar to what was on the old Star Trek TV show. Now any one of those technologies should be eligible for the Nobel prize, but they haven't won yet. :-)

 

I could try to get to Flint, MI one of these days to see & test the RTPC myself but now Jack Carey says it will cost me $200 to do so, I'm NOT going to pay for the privilege of testing it.


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The following is a fairly good summary of Jack from studlee_more@yahoo.com

studlee_more@yahoo.com writes:

<< I do not believe that there is anyone that will do business withJack Carey at this point. But just for info purposes:
1. Jack is severly paranoid. He suffers from delusions  of being a 'world-savior' but has no credentials to match the delusion. He condemns everthing that he cannot understand, which is about everthing there is. He says that current engineering knowledge is all wrong, yet uses the products of that knowledge (such as the computer) to attempt to spread his lies, deceit and spite thru the net. 

 

2. He is pushing a device that does not, and cannot, possibly work. He balks at any suggestion to test the device. He is trying to put a 'demo' video on a pay-per-view site that he thinks people will actually pay to see. The video itself contains nothing that will prove anything he claims and is extremely unprofessional.

3. He wants investors to give him millions of dollars with no control over their money in any way, not even allowing them to test the very thing they are investing in. Needless to say, he will never get capital under those conditions.

4. He claims verifications that he does not have, such as from Mott Community College, the little-known publication  Electrifying Times and others.

5. He claims associations with companies and people that he does not have, such as the above mentioned MCC, ET, Delphi- General Motors and others.

6. He has complaints against him for 'identity-theft', which probably are a result of those claims above and those and other companies not wishing to have their name identified with him.

7. He sends messages to anyone he can get an address for, and messages always are unruly, distasteful, full of nonsense, bad grammer, vulgarity, hate and ad-hominem attacks. After spewing some gross garbage to someone he claims some kind of 'victory', like that has proven his word to be true.

8. The device he is pushing is said to be owned by Confidential Technologies, yet they say that Jack is NOT their representative.

9. He asks everyone to call him but those that do receive the same nonsense and ranting that he produces in his e-mails. Plus, if he gets your phone number he will continue to call and harass you.

10. He makes threats towards people that call his bluff,  threatening to call their place of employment and the worst, threatening to hack into their server and disable or attack it in some manner. The latter threat is a federal
offense and can get him imprisoned if anyone presses it.

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LINKS

 

Tom Bearden's MEG device A rational review of meg claims  and Randi's info and  very good skeptical information on Bearden

free energy scams   T

back to Eric's main Dennis Lee page    what about Joe Newman? Also, Amin, Mills (who may be legit?) Tilley, Perendev, and Bedini's Motor , Bearden Lutec, Tewari Greer's offer VMSK Moray, Bedini, betavolt, Adams, Mallove, Jack Carey ,  GWE,  Searl

Discussion of Bearden's 20 year old theory promising free energy

A closer look at some of Bearden's theory  http://www.tinaja.com/pseudo01.html - a look at psuedoscience on the web

  my $10000 prize for proof of free energy of     Carl Tilley's free energy scam EXPOSED

·  The Museum of Unworkable Devices  a great overview of them

·  INE Free Energy Devices Database -  - another great list of FE claims
 his skeptic pages and crack pot pages
 Milt's discussion of Free Energy and Ceti

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The following is a letter that Mallove sent about Jack Carey:

 

"Eugene F. Mallove" <editor@infinite-energy.com> Add Address

Date: 

2003/12/04 Thu AM 11:17:09 EST

To: 

<vcrepair@juno.com>

CC: 

 

Subject: 

Re: please reply re: Jack Carey [Fwd: Testing Rotary Transformer


On 12/1/03 4:36 AM, "Christy Frazier" <staff@infinite-energy.com> wrote:

>

Dear Eric Krieg (I assume it is you who is at "vcrepair"),  (Ed note – Mallove got this wrong, vcrepair is a different person than Eric Krieg

>
>
> From: vcrepai
> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:33:16 -0500
> To: staff@infinite-energy.com
> Subject: Testing Rotary Transformer Phase Converter, video
>
> I heard about a videotape by Jack Carey who claims to
> have a Rotary Transformer Phase Converter that allows
> single phase power to run three phase motors.

The infamous Jack Carey did come to our place in mid-October --- I'll be writing up a formal report later (but it is not a high priority) -- to allow us to check out what he claimed was a super-performance phase onverter. We were not expecting much -- given this man's confused,  illiterate rantings on the net. (I had never met him face to face --  nd would not recommend the experience to anyone -- at least not when the topic of his claimed anomalous devices is at issue.) However, for the sake of the supposed inventor of this device -- the late Wayne Cochran (who my colleague Ken Rauen had met in Michigan) -- we thought it would be a good idea to see the "real thing" and attempt to test it without the time and other constraints that were present in the cursory Michigan tests -- put it to rest once and for all, or find something novel.

Engineer Jan Roos, who has worked with us in the past in our New Energy Research Laboratory, as well as Prof. Ted Loder from the University of New Hampshire (who had been contacted in parallel through another network) participated in the testing. It was difficult getting the test set up arranged, but we did manage to get
it working. Among other matters, Carey was not aware that there were three 30 Amp fuses inside the device, which kept blowing out! We obtained replacements at Home Depot. This particular device was not given to Carey directly from Wayne Cochran - it evidently fell into his possession when someone else who had obtained it from Wayne, sold or gave it to Carey. You can check with him on the claimed circumstances whereby he had possession of this device. The legal relationship of Carey to Wayne Cochrane's legacy of intellectual property (or lack thereof) is a big question mark in my mind, but Carey will insist that he represents the legacy of Wayne. I believe other associates of Wayne Cochran are not disposed favorably to Carey, but that is not a matter of my concern at this point.


> report
> Phase converters are not new,

Well, to be frank, I was not familiar with their commercial availability -- in both solid state and electromechanical form --  ntil after the initial tests that we performed. Carey changes his claims from time to time depending on what he thinks he can get out of one in the manner of surprise or acceptance. If he thinks that you do
not know about the details of commercially available phase converters -- as we did not during the testing (to my regret), he suggests that it is surprising that this single-phase to 3-phase conversion is wondrous "Tesla- Tech" etc., etc. If you find, as we did, that one leg of the phase converter output is low in amperage, he suggests that this is "amazing." Well, it is not, as an expert on phase converters related to me afterwards. In truth, the particular 240V unit that Carey brought to us evidenced NOTHING special whatsoever. It robustly converts single-phase to 3-phase AC, as do commercial units. We ran a 7 HP (name-plate 7HP) 3-phase motor attached to an impeller-type water pump, and circulated the water through a 100-gallon tank -- that was our load. In parallel there was a 3HP (face plate) motor running -- the other load. However, we never got to the stage -- it would have been useless to be sure, but it would have been nice to do – of acquiring a dynamometer to test its efficiency. There is no indication whatever that any especially high efficiency was occurring based on rough power measurements. It was definitely "under-unity". When loads were increased, power consumption measured by two types of instruments registered increased power consumption of the unit
dramatically -- to the point where even a 50 amp circuit breaker could be tripped (my immediate recollection -- 40 Amp breaker definitely was, it was replaced by a 50 Amp). There was clear indication of 8 to 10 kW peak power consumption, with much less load being driven. (One of our plans had been to pump water up an mgh cliff to get integrated energy -- we did not have time for that.) Furthermore, even were the efficiency eventually found to be high -- under dynamometer test -- that would not be surprising. The experts at the manufacturer of  phase converters told me that greater than 90% conversion efficiency
is routine. Try to tell that to Jack Carey - good luck! Carey confuses motor name plate rating with actual power consumption.

The only good thing about this experience was that it helped us to further probe the confused psychology and intent of Jack Carey. He is innumerate. He has no intention whatsoever of ever getting fixed numbers on the performance of anything he shows. When I told him after the testing that there was no reason to have a "press conference" -- which is what he insisted on! -- because NOTHING novel had been demonstrated, he became extremely angry, and then took off for California in his bizarre racing car. When I told him that if he was to make a claim of "super-performance" in this phase converter, he had to make a comparison test with an equivalent commercial unit, he loudly challenged this, harping on what he considered to be the dramatic "bubble action" in the tank of water that was being pumped! he shouted that he would not pay $1,000 to buy another unit for  comparison testing. After all, why should he? He had a supposed $150million "deal" to arrange in California :)

> but Jack claims
> that the late inventor Wayne Cochran made
> a phase converter that was much more efficient.

We do not and probably will not know the true facts about this, since Wayne is dead and any specially "good" device that Wayne may have had is not in outside hands for testing. (Carey claims that one running on 110 V is better, but I don't accept anything that Carey says, of course.) But the device that Carey brought to us give no indication of unusual performance.

>
> Jack now claims to have a videotape of Gene
> Mallove, editor of Infinite Energy and Ted Loder
> testing a "3 HP" RTPC, supplying power to
> a 3 HP and 7 HP three phase motors. The input
> voltage was 220 VAC and current was 10 amps.
> But then they said when more mechanical load
> was applied the current went up to 50 amps
> and opened the circuit breaker.

Yes, that is what happened. There was huge power consumption – at least a 40 Amp breaker went. Jan Roos may recall whether the 50 A unit tripped as well. It's not terribly important.

>
> Since I haven't seen the video myself, it's
> hard to guess what actually happened.
> Supposedly Jack made it last month, while on a
> road trip around the USA in a Pontiac Transam.


Yes, his spiffy car, crammed with all manner of junk -- including the beat up phase converter arrived in Pembroke, NH on October 17th, Friday. Testing began the following Monday.

> I just heard about it second hand from someone
> who posted a message on free_energy@yahoogroups.com
> He said that Jack visited him and gave him copies
> of the video.

Jack is a purveyor of misinformation. He will use this tape unethically to claim "validation" but there is no validation of unusual performance evident on that tape, whatsoever. I have the original DV tape. Carey has made many other claims -- and these cannot be substantiated either. He showed us credulously highly suspicious clips of other devices -- of the kind that circus barker Dennis Lee also shows -- none of which have scientific or technical validity. This kind of purveying of nonsense is a gross disservice to dedicated scientists world-wide who are working on devices that in some particular cases DO have demonstrable anomalous physics,
anomalous energy performance. > > I have two years experience with Jack or John Richard > Carey jcarey9622@aol.com > by e-mail and know that he exaggerates the belief > of people he claims have seen the RTPC.

Well, I've told you briefly about our experience this October.

> I have never found anyone who believes Jack
> claims of "400 watts input ran 5 HP (3730 watt)
> three phase motor" or other claims of
> increased "efficiency".

No claims of this nature have been validated.
>
> Ken Rauen, technician from Infinite Energy

Ken is a chemist, an engineer, and a scientist, not a technician!

> magazine had tested the RTPC in Wayne's
> garage in Flint MI a year or two ago but found
> 2200 watts and > 208 VAC input power on the 12
> gauge 2 conductor wire in the garage using
> Amprobe Data Logger.
> That is more than the "110 VAC and 400 watts"
> that Jack claims. Since there is no proof the air
> compressor motor was 5 HP the 2200 watts
> seems reasonable.

Ken's test then were inconclusive, although there was anomalous brightening of the room lights, but one can only guess the true circuitry of that room, so even this was not indicative of anything securely unusual.

> > So we just wanted to know if you actually
> tested the RTPC and what type of results
> did you get and how was it tested?

As I said, this was a brief overview. A more detailed report will be assembled later, but for now I see no reason to believe that the device Carey brought to us was anything but a home brewed --
non-traditional design (it had two motors in it, one single phase, one three phase) -- phase converter. Until Carey can show a side-by-side quantitative comparison with a commercial unit, he can claims NOTHING from the tests at NERL -- other than he does have a phase converter.
Big deal.

> Need to know what the mechanical output
> power of the motors was and the electrical
> input power to know the efficiency.

Indeed, we'll attempt to bracket these for you later. We were in the process of trying to arrange a dynamometer test when Jack left abruptly, which was a great relief to us all!

>
> Jack knows nothing technical and never can
> give a contact for anyone who has actually
> tested the RTPC and verified his claims.
>
> Thank you for any information you have
> so we can decide if Jack is just making more lies.

He is. Lies and gross exaggerations. As you know, Mr. Krieg, I am no friend of YOUR brand of pathological skepticism and your egregious insults against new energy research, but on the matter of Jack Carey's behavior, we may have similar views.

You may circulate this message as you wish. I am sure it will generate torrents of amusing and not-so-amusing nonsense from Jack Carey.

Sincerely,

Dr. Eugene F. Mallove
New Energy Foundation, Inc.
(A nonprofit 501(c)(3) corporation)
P.O. Box 2816, Concord, NH 03302-2816
Phone: 603-485-4700 Fax: 603-485-4710
www.infinite-energy.com
TO DOW CORNING  MIDLAND MI.   PAGE 1 OF 14.. 

 

 

The following is a letter that Jack sent to Dow Corning:

 

TO DOW CORNING  MIDLAND MI.   PAGE 1 OF 14.. 

 

A  WHITE PAPER FROM CONFIDENTIAL TECHNOLOGIES FLINT MI.  WITH NO REFERENCES TO ANY ACCEPTED BODY’S OF SCIENTIFIC WORK.  BECAUSE NONE THAT WE KNOW OF  PRESENTLY EXIST IN THE KNOWN LINEAR SCIENTIFIC WORLD THAT RELATE TO THIS WHITE PAPER. . BECAUSE AT THIS TIME THERE IS BASICALLY NO LINEAR  PRESENTLY TAUGHT  KNOWLEDGE OF THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED HERE.

 

MY NAME IS JACK CAREY MY CELL NO. IS 810 701 0233 MY PAGE IS 810 812 4033. IF YOU WISH TO CONTACT ME AFTER READING THIS.  PLEASE EXCUSE THE CAPS I'M NOT SHOUTING. AND MY POOR WRITING ABILITIES.  I'M BASICALLY THE LOUD MOUTH TOWN CRIER. THAT IS JUST TRYING TO DO HIS ASSIGNED JOB.  IF I APPEAR TO BE ARROGANT, PRESUMPTIONS OR MELODRAMATIC THERE IS NO INTENT I ASSURE YOU. 

 

I'M HIS NON TECHNICAL PROMOTER. PLUS I'M HELPING HIM FORM A COMPANY. WHO'S PRIME DIRECTIVE WILL BE ATTEMPTING TO SAVE A PLANET AND HOPEFULLY OUR SPECIES IN THE PROCESS.  I'M JUST BASICALLY AN AVERAGE PERSON NOBODY FROM NOWHERE WANNA BE VISIONARY WITH SOME MINOR ABILITIES TO PROMOTE.

 

WHAT IS CONTAINED IN THIS PRESENTATION IS PROBABLY  FAR BEYOND ANYONE'S LINEAR TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE?  THIS COULD ALSO POSSIBLY BE A MULTI TRILLION DOLLAR TECHNOLOGY. THAT MAY PHYSICALLY DRIVE THIS PLANET FOR THE NEXT FEW HUNDRED YEARS. WITH VERY EXOTIC NEW CLEAN NON POLLUTING PROPULSION AND POWER/ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES. ALSO OUR WEB SITE SHOULD BE UP SOON.

 

OUR DIRECTORS ABILITIES APPROACH  TESLA'S, FARADAYS AND EINSTEIN'S CAPABILITIES. ALL OF THEM WERE ALSO BASICALLY SELF TAUGHT. TESLA WAS THE GREATEST INVENTOR OF THEM ALL. WHAT TESLA ACCOMPLISHED WITH A/C AND INDUSTRIAL 3 PHASE HAD AS MUCH IMPACT ON OUR SOCIETY IN A TECHNOLOGICAL SENSE AS POSSIBLY THE BIRTH OF CHRIST DID IN RELIGIOUS SENSE.  

 

NATURALLY I DO NOT EXPECT YOU TO BELIEVE ANY OF IT WITHOUT INVESTIGATING IT FIRST. WHAT IS CONTAINED HERE IS ONLY A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF HIS POSSIBLE WORLD CHANGING TECHNOLOGIES.

 

 

 

 SIR   YOUR COMPANY  VIEWED SOME ASPECTS OF THE EXOTIC TECHNOLOGY DESCRIBED IN THIS FILE  SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WERE PRESENTED TO THEM.  THEY INVESTED TIME AND MONEY TO HELP THE INVENTOR CREATE ASPECTS OF THE TECHNOLOGY.  YOUR SCIENTIST'S DID NOT UNDERSTAND OR HAVE A CLUE WHEN ANY OF THE ADVANCED SITUATIONS BEING  PRESENTED TO THEM WOULD EVEN BE REALITY.

 

PLUS YOU TOOK HIM AROUND THE LINEAR ACADEMIC WORLD TO SEE IF THEY COULD GRASP ANY OF TECHNOLOGY AND DETERMINED  THEY COULD NOT UNDERSTAND ANY OF THE EXOTIC TECHNICAL DYNAMICS EITHER. I ASSUME AT THIS POINT THAT WILL STILL BE THE SITUATION.

 

YOUR COMPANY HAS SAMPLES OF THE MATERIALS THAT DROVE THE SELF CONTAINED INTERNALLY DRIVEN NO CONSUMPTION NATURAL MAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM. PLUS THEY VIEWED OPERATIONAL THE ADVANCED 110 TO 3 PHASE SYSTEM THAT USED FREQUENCY’S CONTAINED IN ELECTRICITY TO TRANSFER POWER INSTEAD OF USING AMPS. 

 

PAGE 2.       THE FIRST TIME THE INVENTOR TURNED YOUR OFFER DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS TO RESTRICTIVE. HE STILL IS NOT FOR SALE.  YOU ARE BEING OFFERED ONE MORE CHANCE TO BECOME INVOLVED IT IS UP TO YOU. BECAUSE THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL BE COMING ON LINE SOON.

 

   THIS MAY BE THE CHANCE OF A LIFETIME. THE TECHNOLOGY HAS NO COMPETITION. THAT HE KNOWS OF ON THIS PLANET.    WE MEANING CONFIDENTIAL TECHNOLOGIES FLINT MI.  DO NOT NEED YOU.  BUT BUSINESS IS BUSINESS. IF YOUR INTERESTED OR NOT PLEASE LET US KNOW EITHER WAY. THANK YOU.

 

 WE ARE OFFERING MARKETING AND DISTRIBUTION OPTIONS AND A SHARE FROM THE SALE OF PRODUCTS. AND EXCLUSIVE LICENSING RIGHTS. TO THE FIRST LICENSEE. ALL OTHER LICENSE APPLICATIONS AFTER THAT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FIRST LICENSEE

 

    THE INVESTMENT  ON YOUR PART WOULD HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 10 FIGURES. FOR WORLD WIDE RIGHTS.  BUT THE MAJORITY WOULD COME FROM SALES OF OUR SYSTEMS. INITIALLY ABOUT 40 MILLION WOULD BE REQUIRED AS A DOWN PAYMENT ON WORLD WIDE RIGHTS FOR A 15 YEAR AGREEMENT. WITH FIRST OPTIONS TO RENEW. AT THE END OF 15 YEARS.  AT THAT TIME THE OPTIONS WOULD BE  PUT  OUT  FOR BID. BUT THE FIRST LICENSEE WOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF MATCHING THE HIGHEST BID.  . . .  

 

WE CAN BECOME PROFITABLE IN 90 TO 120 DAYS. OUR PARENT COMPANY WILL STAY PRIVATE AND UNDER OUR CONTROL. IF YOU BECOME INVOLVED WE WILL STAY IN THE BACKGROUND AND LET YOU HANDLE ALL THE PUBLIC AND PRESS SITUATIONS. OUR DIRECTOR IS NOT LOOKING ANY PUBLIC EXPOSURE. OR NOBEL PRIZES AT THIS TIME.

 

     BUT WILL NOT PASS UP A CHANCE TO GO PUBLIC BEFORE A DEAL IS PUT TOGETHER. IF WE STRIKE A DEAL WITH SOME SITUATION WE ARE GOING TO DISAPPEAR BEHIND THEM.  AND LET THEM BE THE TARGET.   IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCEPT QUESTIONS PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU WISH. .I WILL  REFER YOUR TECHNICAL QUESTIONS TO OUR DIRECTOR       ALSO YOUR COMPANIES PAST INVOLVEMENT IN THIS TECHNOLOGY IS DEPICTED IN THE BODY OF THE MAIL. 

 

     AT THIS POINT  WE HAVE AT LEAST A 15 BILLION DOLLAR MARKET WAITING THAT IS OUT OF THE MAIN STREAM WITH THE AMISH. IF YOU BECOME INVOLVED WE CAN INTRODUCE INTERNATIONAL FROM THE BEGINNING. INSTEAD OF BUILDING UP TO IT. WE DO NOT SIGN ANY  NDA  AGREEMENTS UNLESS CONFIDENTIAL TECHNOLOGIES FLINT MI. GENERATES  THEM.

 

PRODUCT'S  PROPOSED FOR MARKET.       RADICAL NEW ON SITE SELF CONTAINED INTERNALLY DRIVEN NO CONSUMPTION IN ANY KNOW FORM COST EFFECTIVE ELECTRICITY DELIVERY SYSTEMS. THAT WILL POWER UP YOUR HOUSE OR CAR THAT ARE COMING ON LINE SOON. PLUS BREAK AWAY UNITS THAT ARE POSSIBLE NOW THAT ARE IN THE PUBLISHED STORY THAT IS ATTACHED.  BUT WILL NOT BE MARKETED UNTIL THEY HAVE BEEN SHOWN WORKING WITH THE SELF CONTAINED SYSTEM.

 

THEY ARE A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR PRODUCT BY THEMSELVES. THAT ARE INTENDED FOR SITUATIONS THAT WANT VERY COST EFFECTIVE FEASIBLE 3 PHASE POWER. ANY

WHERE ON THE PLANET.  WHERE 110 OR 220 ELECTRICAL SERVICE IS AVAILABLE.  IS NOT PRESENTLY POSSIBLE ON THE ADVANCED LEVEL WE WILL OFFER IT ON.  I'M INCLUDING An OVERVIEW OF OUR CURRENT AND PLANNED CAPABILITIES. 

 

 PAGE 3.             PLEASE JOIN ME ON A POSSIBLE EXOTIC AND POSSIBLY INTERESTING JOURNEY THAT GOES BACK TO THE 19 TH. CENTURY AND POSSIBLY FORWARD TO THE 23 RD CENTURY. AND POSSIBLY THE DAWN OF A NEW AGE.  WHERE THE AIR AND WATER IS NOT BEING POLLUTED AS IT IS NOW OR THERE IS NOT ANY NOISE FROM THE ROAR OF COMBUSTION ENGINES. AND YOUR NOT A SLAVE TO THE SYSTEM. AS YOU ARE NOW. YOU WILL HAVE CHOICES SOMETHING YOU DO NOT HAVE NOW. 

 

   PLUS THE TRAFFIC GRID LOCK PROBLEM HAS BEEN SOLVED. AND AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENTS ARE POSSIBLY NON EXISTENT WITH A ACCIDENT AVOIDANCE SYSTEM THAT IS AUTOMATIC AND NOT COMPUTER CONTROLLED. PLUS A AUTOMATIC NATURAL MAGNETIC FIELD CONTROLLED FLOW SYSTEM THAT WILL ELIMINATE STOP SIGNS AND TRAFFIC LIGHTS. 

 

   PRESENTLY IF YOU DRIVE BY THE GAS STATION AND YOUR ON EMPTY AND YOU DO NOT STOP YOUR WALKING 3 MILES DOWN THE ROAD.  WE ARE GOING TO TRY AND CREATE A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN HAVE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE NOW AND MORE. PLUS A CLEAN WORLD. AND NO ONE IS IN YOUR POCKET BOOK.

 

THAT IS UTOPIA THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN IS POSSIBLY PURGATORY IF WE DO NOT START CHANGING CURRENT PRACTICES SOON. INTERNAL COMBUSTION SYSTEMS COULD BE GONE IN THIS COUNTRY BY 2012 TO 2015.

 

    IT CAN ALL POSSIBLE IN THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS ON A WORLD WIDE BASES.  BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE THAT LONG FOR THE GLOBAL ECONOMY TO ADJUST WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF TECHNOLOGIES THAT HAVE AND WILL BE DEVELOPED.  BY POSSIBLY THE GREATEST COMMON SENSE TECHNICAL AND BUSINESS MIND TO COME ALONG IN RECORDED HISTORY. WHO IS BASICALLY SELF TAUGHT.

 

TIME MAGAZINE DID TESLA A GREAT DISSERVICE WHEN THEY FAILED TO NAME HIM THE PERSON OF THE 20TH. CENTURY. WE INTEND TO CORRECT THAT SITUATION.   EINSTEIN WHO WAS NAMED DID NOT CREATE THE CONCEPTS HE CREATED THE MATH TO GO WITH THEM. THE MAJORITY OF THE CONCEPTS WERE A HUNDRED YEARS OLD WHEN HE CAME ALONG.

 

TESLA ON THE OTHER HAND  DID IT ALL. THE CONCEPTS. THE INVENTIONS AND THE MATH TO BACK THEM UP. ALTHOUGH HE WAS INSPIRED BY SOMEONE AS WE ALL ARE. HIS MOTHER FOR ONE AND ALSO FARADAY AND OTHERS.

 

  WHY DOESN'T OUR CONTROLLED EDUCATION SYSTEM TEACH YOU TESLA OR FARADAY ?? POSSIBLY BECAUSE THERE WORK CONTAINS MANY ANSWERS TO OUR PROBLEMS. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE STATUS QUE. LIKES IT THE WAY IT IS NOW WHERE THEY CAN KEEP CONTROL.

 

WE WOULD PROBABLY STILL BE RIDING HORSES IF IT WAS NOT FOR HIM AS OUR FOREFATHERS HAD FOR CENTURIES. EDISON'S DIRECT CURRENT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ADEQUATE TO CREATE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION. PLUS THERE WOULD BE A POWER PLANT EVERY MILE OR SO WITH DC.

 

    THE LIGHT BULB WAS A 40 YEAR OLD GERMAN INVENTION. THAT HE GOT LUCKY ON READ HIS NOTES. HE IS PRIMARILY KNOW FOR CREATING THE CORPORATE LAB. THAT WAS BASICALLY THE MOST UNPRODUCTIVE SITUATION EVER INVENTED. THE CREATORS OF THE MAJORITY OF OUR PRESENT CORPORATIONS WERE SELF TAUGHT AND STARTED IN THERE BARN OR GARAGE. AS OUR DIRECTOR DID.

 

 PAGE 4.                  THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF FLINT MI.  TOLD DELPHI'S CHIEF SCIENTIST THAT HE HAS BASICALLY NEVER SAW CORPORATION'S INVENT ANYTHING.     

 

     HEWLETT PACKARD HONORS THERE BEGINNINGS AND DEPICTS THAT IN THERE AD'S. MOST OF THEM ARE MICRO MANAGED NOW AND VERY ARROGANT AND HAVE LOST SIGHT OF WHERE THEY CAME FROM. BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THERE VISIONARY CREATORS ARE GONE.  

 

TESLA CREATED A PYRIDINE SHIFT OVER A CENTURY AGO WHEN HE LITERALLY ELECTRIFIED THE WORLD THAT MADE POSSIBLE THOSE LARGE CORPORATIONS.  BECAUSE ELECTRICITY WAS AVAILABLE TO DO SO.  AND HE CREATED THE BASES FOR OUR PRESENT COMMUNICATION SYSTEM.

 

HENRY FORD AND WILLIAM CARPO DURANT WHO CREATED GM WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO IF IT WERE NOT FOR TESLA.   WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO CREATE ANOTHER SHIFT BY CREATING A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE POWER/ENERGY WITHOUT FOSSIL FUEL CONSUMPTION.

 

OTHERWISE WE WILL PROBABLY POLLUTE OURSELVES TO THE POINT OF EXTINCTION BY 2075 AND LOSE OUR CIVILIZATION IF WE CONTINUE ON OUR PRESENT COURSE OF BURNING FOSSIL FUELS. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BASICALLY DESTROYING THE PRIMARY SITUATIONS THAT GIVE US LIFE ON THIS PLANET. OUR AIR,  WATER, SOIL AND OXYGEN CREATING RAIN FORESTS IN SOUTH AMERICA....

 

THE CHINESE ARE CURRENTLY THE THIRD LARGEST PRODUCERS OF GREEN HOUSE GASES ON THE PLANET ACCORDING TO TIME MAGAZINE. BY 2020 THEY WILL BE THE LARGEST. WHY?? BECAUSE THEY CAN NOW AFFORD TO BUY COAL INSTEAD OF HAVING TO RAKE UP LEAVES AND DRY THEM IN THE SUN AND BURN THEM IN THE WINTER MONTHS TO KEEP WARM.

 

THEY COMPRISE A THIRD OF THE POPULATION ON THIS PLANET.   WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU??   THERE IS A GAPING HOLE IN THE OZONE PROTECTIVE LAYER THAT JUST REACHED THE TIP OF SOUTH AMERICA AND STRETCHES TO THE SOUTH POLE.   WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?? 

 

 THE AMBIENT TEMPERATURE ON THIS PLANET HAS RISEN MORE IN THE LAST 30 YEARS THAN IT HAD IN THE PAST 20,000 YEARS. THAT SITUATION IS NOT BEING CAUSED BY NATURAL GLOBAL WARMING           WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU??

 

An ICE BERG THE SIZE OF THE STATE OF MARYLAND JUST FELL OF THE ARCTIC ICE CAP.    WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU??        A 125 YEARS AGO THE FLINT RIVER HERE WAS ONE OF THE FINEST TROUT STREAM'S ON THIS PLANET AND HAD BEEN FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

 

 IT IS NOW BASICALLY A DIRTY POLLUTED TOXIC SEWER. THE MAJORITY OF THE LAKES AROUND HERE WERE FORMED IN THE 1500'S WHEN A LARGE METEOR CAME THROUGH AND BROKE UP.      HOW DO WE KNOW THAT?

 

   THE EARLY SETTLERS WERE TOLD ABOUT THE INCIDENT BY THE INDIANS BECAUSE THEY PASS THERE HISTORY DOWN ORALLY. AND THE SETTLERS WROTE IT DOWN IN THERE JOURNALS. THE CHICAGO FIRE WAS PROBABLY CAUSED BY A METEOR HIT ABOUT 30 MILES AWAY.  IS THE PICTURE POSSIBLY BECOMING CLEAR TO YOU??

 

 PAGE 5.       THE SOIL ON THIS PLANET IS RADIATED DOWN 9 FT. FROM THE SURFACE FROM ALL THE ATMOSPHERIC TESTING OVER THE LAST 60 YEARS AND NUCLEAR ACCIDENTS.     WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU??    IT TELLS ME THIS GREEN EARTH WILL PROBABLY BE A DEAD BARREN TOTALLY POLLUTED TOXIC PLANET BY 2125 TO 2150.

 

     IN THE REALM TIME THAT IS A BLINK OF AN EYE. WHEN ARE GOING TO WAKE UP AND START SUPPORTING EFFORTS TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO STOP BURNING FOSSIL FUELS? UNLESS WE CAN FIND A PRISTINE PLANET WE CAN MOVE TO AND IF WE DO HOPEFULLY WE DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES WE HAVE AND ARE MAKING HERE. WE ALSO NEED TO FIND A WAY OF PROTECTING OURSELVES FROM OBJECT'S COMING AT US FROM SPACE THAT COULD ALSO DESTROY US AS THEY SUPPOSEDLY DID TO THE DINOSAURS 65 MILLION YEARS AGO.

 

WHEN THE GULF OF MEXICO WAS PROBABLY FORMED.  THAT AREA WAS PART OF A LAND MASS UNTIL THEN. LOOK AT THE OUTLINE FROM FLORIDA AROUND TO MEXICO. IT IS A HALF CIRCLE. BECAUSE IT WAS A DIRECT HIT AT 40,000 MPH.  IT'S IMPACT IS ALSO PROBABLY THE MAIN REASON ENGLAND IS WHERE IT IS. IT IS A CORRAL BASED ISLAND. NOT VOLCANIC.  IT HAD TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE.     CAN YOU SEE THE HAND WRITING ON THE WALL. ????

 

WE HAVE A SLIM CHANCE OF CHANGING IT. IF WE DON'T IT WILL PROBABLY BECOME ETCHED IN STONE AND WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO. IF THAT HAPPENS WE ARE SURELY DOOMED. THE 60 BILLION THAT OUR GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SPEND ON A LAND BASED MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM COULD BE USED FAR MORE WISELY.

 

THE HARPP PROJECT OUR GOVERNMENT HAS IN ALASKA COULD BURN OUR ATMOSPHERE OFF THIS PLANET.  THEY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY ARE PLAYING WITH. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR OUR SCIENTIFIC STUPIDITY. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO ENCOURAGE OUR YOUTH TO BE CREATIVE THINKERS INSTEAD OF PREACHING CONFORMITY TO THEM?

 

THEY ARE OUR FUTURE AND THEY EITHER WILL OR WILL NOT SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS. DURING WORLD WAR TWO OUR GOVERNMENT STARTED A VERY PROGRESSIVE EDUCATION SITUATION BECAUSE OUR FUTURE LOOKED VERY BLEAK AT THE TIME AND THEY NEEDED ANSWERS TO PROBLEMS AFTER THE WAR IT DISAPPEARED.  

 

WHY?? BECAUSE THE MASSES WOULD START THINKING FOR THEMSELVES AND THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL THEM AS THEY DO NOW. THAT IS THE UNDERLYING ISSUE TO EVERYTHING. IN OUR SOCIETY. WE WILL BURY OURSELVES IN TIME IF WE DO NOT CHANGE THAT ATTITUDE AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN WILL NOT HAVE A PLANET THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SURVIVE ON IF IT CONTINUES.

 

OUR HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEMS ACCEPTS MONEY FROM BIG POWER, COAL AND OIL BUT THAT MONEY COME WITH A CATCH.  THE CATCH IS TEACH WHAT WE WANT AND DO NOT TEACH ANYTHING THAT WILL UPSET OUR APPLE CART AND CAUSE US PROBLEMS. THAT IS WHY THEY DO NOT TEACH TESLA.  WE DO NOT NEED PEOPLE TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO STOP BURNING FOSSIL FUELS OTHERWISE WE WILL LOSE MONEY.

 

    THAT CREATES A CATCH 22. IF WE DON'T FIGURE OUT WAYS WE WILL PERISH BECAUSE OF THEM. PLUS OUR TECHNICAL EDUCATION SYSTEM WILL NOT ADMIT THEY WENT DOWN THE WRONG ROAD.  THEY KNOW IT ALL JUST ASK THEM. THEY WILL TELL YOU THEY DO.

 

 PAGE 6.      SO WE WILL GO AROUND THAT PROBLEM BY CREATING OUR OWN SCIENCE BASED SCHOOLS THAT WILL TEACH THE 22 ND CENTURY.  WHO IS GOING TO WANT TO GO TO SITUATIONS THAT ARE TEACHING 19 TH. CENTURY THINKING.??

 

    PLUS WE WILL NOT REQUIRE YOU TO TAKE CLASSES YOU DO NOT WANT TO. PRESENTLY THEY DICTATE WHAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE IF YOU WANT A DEGREE YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR PAYING FOR IT.  I HAVE A DAUGHTER IN COLLEGE SHE AND HER FRIENDS LIKE THE IDEA.    DO YOU??  

 

    THEY DO NOT REALIZE CRUDE HAS MANY USES BESIDES GASOLINE. THE GAS PART CAN BE PUT BACK INTO THE WELL AND IT WILL TURN BACK INTO CRUDE OVER TIME AND YOU WILL NEVER RUN OUT THAT WAY. WHAT DO YOU KNOW A SOLUTION?

 

 BIG POWER YOU COULD SERVICE OUR ON SITE SELF CONTAINED ELECTRICITY DELIVERY SYSTEMS YOU ALL READY HAVE THE SERVICE INFRASTRUCTURE AND YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO SERVICE THE LINES.

 

THEY ARE UGLY AND CREATE HEALTH PROBLEMS IN HUMANS ANYWAY. PLUS OUR EQUIPMENT WOULD NOT BE EFFECTED BY STORMS OR BROWN OUTS FROM HIGH DEMAND AND NO MORE OUTAGES. NO BIG INVESTMENTS ARE REQUIRED IN NEW GENERATING PLANTS THAT NO BODY WANTS IN THERE BACK YARD.

 

 BUT PRESENTLY WILL BE REQUIRED TO MEET FUTURE DEMANDS.   PLUS FEWER MEDICAL PROBLEMS. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ANOTHER SOLUTION?  COAL HAS USES ALSO BESIDES BURNING IT BUT I WILL NOT GO INTO THAT AT THIS TIME. SEE HOW EASY IT IS TO CHANGE.  UNLESS YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA. I'M LISTENING. ARE YOU?? 

 

A SELF POWERED SATELLITE BASED ATOMIC ACCELERATOR USING SATELLITE DETECTION IMAGINARY WOULD COST FAR LESS THAN 60 BILLION AND SERVE MANY PURPOSES. UNLESS WE CAN DEVELOP ARTIFICIAL FORCE FIELDS FIRST. WE WERE 4 HOURS AWAY IN SPACE FROM A MAJOR IMPACT IN 1989 THAT WOULD HAVE CAUSED MASS DESTRUCTION.

 

IF TECHNOLOGY OF THAT MAGNITUDE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN PLACE WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE REDIRECTED A MASS OF THAT SIZE. ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING. BALLISTIC MISSILES WOULD NOT HAVE THE RANGE NECESSARY TO STOP OR REDIRECT ANYTHING IN TIME BECAUSE OF ITS VELOCITY (40,000  MPH ) AND MASS FACTOR.  

 

THE SKY IS NO LONGER AS BLUE AS IT ONCE WAS. IT IS GRAY THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME. IS IT NOT. ALSO THE POLLUTION PRESENTLY COMING FROM MEXICO IS HORRENDOUS.  THE SKY WILL PROBABLY BE BLACK BY 2040. BECAUSE THERE WILL 10 BILLION PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET BY THEN. AND 13 BILLION BY 2075.

 

 DOUBLE OUR CURRENT POPULATION.  ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK OUT THE WINDOW AND IMAGINE WHAT IS IN OUR FUTURE. CONSIDERING ALL THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE ENVIRONMENT THE LAST 50 YEARS. 

 

     WHEN THERE WAS ONLY 2.5 BILLION PEOPLE. CONSIDERING IT TOOK UNTIL 1804 FOR THE POPULATION TO REACH 1 BILLION. AND WE DID NOT ACHIEVE 2 BILLION UNTIL THE 1920'S. AT THE CURRENT RATE THE INCREASING POPULATION FACTOR AND THE ESCALATING USE OF FOSSIL FUELS BECAUSE OF IT WILL CRUSH US. 

 

 PAGE 7.          BY 2040 TO 2050 IT WILL PROBABLY BE TO LATE TO REVERSE THE POLLUTION PROCESS.  THAT IS THE PURE REALITY OF THE SITUATION. NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT. YOU ARE WELCOME TO DISAGREE.  DOW CORNING IN MIDLAND MI.  CALLED HIM A LIVING COMBINATION OF EINSTEIN AND TESLA. AND TRIED TO BUY HIM.    THEY FOUND OUT HE WAS NOT FOR SALE.

 

ALSO THEY DID NOT REALIZE HE HAD HENRY FORD'S CAPABILITIES OF POSSIBLY BEING ABLE TO CREATE A DYNASTY. SOME OF HIS TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN PUBLISHED BY A WEST COAST PUBLICATION THAT COVERS PRIMARILY THE ELECTRIC CAR INDUSTRY. THE ARTICLE IS ATTACHED AT THE END OF THIS MAIL.  THE EDITOR CAME HERE IN JUNE WHEN TOYOTA FLEW HIM TO KENTUCKY TO SEE THERE NEW FORK LIFT AND THERE NEW GIANT PARTS PLANT.  

 

I MADE A PRESENTATION TO DELPHI'S CHIEF SCIENTIST LAST MONTH.  AND THEN OUR START UP COMPANIES DIRECTOR/CREATOR IN A SECOND MEETING THAT WAS ALSO ATTENDED BY THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF FLINT MI.

 

WHO IS QUALIFIED TO BE A WORLD CLASS PHYSICIST AND UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO BUT DOES NOT KNOW HOW. HE FEELS WE CAN CREATE 6000 TO 10,000 JOBS HERE IN FLINT MI.  IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS BUILDING REINVENTED AND REFINED TESLA TECHNOLOGIES. 

 

THAT WILL BE SELF CONTAINED ATMOSPHERIC FREQUENCY, RADIO WAVE, BASICALLY RADIANT ENERGY DRIVEN SELF CONTAINED ELECTRICITY DELIVERY SYSTEMS THAT WILL POWER UP YOUR HOUSE ON SITE OR YOUR CAR WITHOUT CREATING POLLUTION.  THE TECHNOLOGY IS NOTHING NEW. TESLA CREATED IT 80 TO 120 YEARS AGO.

 

OUR DIRECTOR HAS BASICALLY TAKEN TESLA'S, FARADAYS, MORAY'S AND KALUSA'S WORK. WHO EXPANDED ON EINSTEIN'S THEORIES IN THE 1920'S ALONG WITH OSCAR KLIEN.   AND EINSTEIN'S QUANTUM MECHANICS, THE 3 FOLD UNIFIED THEORY AND STRING AND SUPER STRING THEORIES AND CREATED A SITUATION THAT WORKS AND PRODUCES WORK. HE IS NOT CLAIMING THE GRAND UNIFICATION OF THEORIES AT THIS TIME.

 

PLUS HE HAS BASICALLY REWRITTEN PHYSICS. IT WILL BE PUBLISHED IN TIME. IN THE MEAN TIME HE HAS MACHINES THAT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AND BASICALLY BLOW PRESENT DAY TAUGHT LINEAR ELECTRICAL THEORY OUT OF THE WATER.

 

 AN EQUATION HAS BEEN CREATED THAT SHOWS ELECTRON FLOW WITHOUT CREATING AN E.M.F. FIELD THAT EXPLAINS WHY THE 3 PHASE MOTORS DO NOT HEAT UP THAT ARE DESCRIBED IN THE ATTACHED PUBLISHED ARTICLE. 

 

IN THE SECOND MEETING HE BASICALLY SHOWED DR CARLTON SPECK DELPHI'S/GM CHIEF SCIENTIST AT THERE WORLD HQ TECH. CENTER HERE IN FLINT. THE NEXT SEVERAL STEPS BEYOND FUEL CELLS, HYBRIDS, INTERNAL COMBUSTION AND CURRENT EV PLATFORMS.  PLUS OUR DIRECTOR ALSO INSTRUCTED HIM HOW TO MAKE THERE HYDROGEN PROPULSION SYSTEM WORK FOR FREE. THEY HAD IT BACKWARDS.

 

IT IS OBSOLETE TO HIM SO IT WAS NOT THAT IMPORTANT. DR SPECK SAID WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT. HE SHOULD HAVE STUDIED TESLA AND FEW OTHERS AND MAYBE HE WOULD HAVE.

 

 PAGE 8.           PLUS HE SHOWED HIM NEW RADICAL ELECTRICITY SITUATIONS AND SAFE SMALL 5 GAL SIZE NUCLEAR REACTOR TECHNOLOGIES. THAT A COLLEAGUE INVENTED. THAT ARE IDEAL FOR HIGH DEMAND POWER REQUIREMENT APPLICATIONS. SUCH AS LARGE BUILDINGS AND FACTORIES.

 

 THEY DO NOT CREATE ANY WASTE OR BOMB GRADE MATERIAL AND ARE SELF MODERATING AND DO NOT REACH A CRITICAL MASS STAGE. BUT ARE NOT INTENDED FOR HOME OR CAR USE.

 

THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THE MEETING WAS OUR DIRECTOR ALLEGES THAT GM OBTAINED A SMALL PART OF A VAST EXOTIC SELF CONTAINED INTERNALLY DRIVEN NO CONSUMPTION MAGNETIC PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY.  ( NOT RELATED TO ELECTROMAGNETISM IN ANY WAY) FROM HIM 20 YEARS AGO WITHOUT HIS AUTHORIZATION THAT BECAME THERE MAGNEQUENCH TECHNOLOGY.

 

THEY SOLD IT AND HE WANTS HIS SHARE. THEY ALSO HAVE COMPLEXES HERE WE WANT THAT ARE VERY CHEAP.  BUT WE NEED TO RECREATE THE TESLA TECHNOLOGIES FIRST.  BEFORE WE CAN REFINE THAT TECHNOLOGY THAT HE HAD TO PHYSICALLY STOP BECAUSE THE FIELDS BEING TRANSMITTED COULD BE DETECTED 30 FT FROM THE MOTOR HE CREATED. 

 

 IT RAN AT 20,000 RPMS AT THE SHAFT BY ITSELF AFTER IT WAS STARTED AND WOULD FIT IN A SMALL SHOE BOX. THE MOTOR HAD TO BE STOPPED.  BECAUSE THE MAGNETIC FIELDS IT GENERATED WOULD CAUSE HUMAN DNA DAMAGE.

 

IT WILL TAKE 3 YEARS OF R&D AND 20 MILLION BEFORE IT WILL BE A SAFE PRODUCT. WE PHYSICALLY DEMONSTRATE THE EXOTIC MAGNETIC MATERIAL THAT CREATED THE POWER SOURCE FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY.

 

 IT CONTAINS NO METAL COMPOUNDS AND HEAT WILL NOT DESTROY THE FIELDS IT GENERATES.   BUT IT IS EFFECTED BY COLD AND ITS FIELDS TRAVEL IN A LINEAR DIRECTION.

 

JUST THE OPPOSITE OF THE KNOWN LINEAR MAGNETIC WORLD. THE MOTOR WAS MADE FROM A COMBINATION OF MAGNESIUM, ALUM. AND LEAD. TRY THAT ONE. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE WITH PRESENT DAY KNOWLEDGE TO COMBINE THOSE THREE METALS INTO ONE ALLOY.  ASK ANY PHYSICIST OR ENGINEER IF THEY CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT AND THEY WILL LOOK AT YOUR LIKE YOU JUST STEPPED OFF A SPACE SHIP. 

 

DOW CORNING IN MIDLAND MI.  ASSIGNED THERE TOP SCIENTIFIC PEOPLE AND SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY ON HELPING OUR DIRECTOR CREATE THE METAL MATERIAL FOR THE MOTOR AND PHYSICALLY SAW THE MOTOR OPERATIONAL. AND CONSIDERED IT A STAR TREK LEVEL SITUATION.

 

 THEY OFFERED HIM LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY UP FRONT AND TO DEVELOP.  BUT THEY WOULD OWN THE RIGHTS AND WOULD NOT INTRODUCE ANYTHING FOR 30 YEARS BECAUSE IT WAS TO FAR AHEAD OF IT'S TIME.  PLUS HE WOULD HAVE TO WORK FOR THEM IN THERE LAB'S.

 

    HE WAS ONLY INTERESTED IN LICENSING HIS TECHNOLOGY TO THEM AND WANTED HIS INVENTIONS INTRODUCED AS SOON AS THEY WERE READY. AFTER HE TOLD THEM NO DEAL THEY TRIED TO OFFER HIM A BETTER ONE AND HE TOLD THE CEO OF ONE OF THE LARGEST COMPANIES ON THIS PLANET THEY HAD THERE CHANCE AND BLEW IT. THAT IS A TRUE STORY I DO NOT CARE IF YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

  

 PAGE 9.                    OUR DIRECTOR WAS THE MAIN REASON GM'S IMPACT ELECTRIC CAR WAS SO FAR AHEAD OF ITS TIME WHEN IT CAME OUT. THEY DID NOT KNOW HE HAD A HAND IN ITS DEVELOPMENT. IT USED TO SHOW UP AT HIS HOUSE AT 3 IN THE MORNING DRIVEN BY A GM ENGINEER FRIEND.  

 

PBS HAS SENT A FACT FINDER OUT AND A PRESTIGIOUS AWARD WINNING AUSTRIAN PRODUCTION CO. FROM MELBOURNE WILL BE HERE IN EARLY 2002 THAT IS BEING BACKED BY THE AUSTRIAN BROADCASTING CO. AND THE AUSTRIAN GOVT. TO INCLUDE SOME ASPECTS OF OUR DIRECTORS POSSIBLE WORLD CHANGING SITUATIONS IN A WORLD WIDE DOCUMENTARY ABOUT ZERO POINT ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOLUTIONS.

 

THE FILM MAKER WAS HERE IN AUG. ON A WORLD TOUR SEEING 33 PEOPLE ON THE PLANET. IN 40 DAYS. INFINITE ENERGY MAGAZINE WAS HERE IN THE LATE SPRING AND HAS SINCE RECREATED ONE OF THE OBSOLETE VERSIONS OF 220 TO 3 PHASE INVENTIONS THAT IS IN THE ATTACHED STORY IN THERE LAB. IN CONCORD, NEW HAMPSHIRE. IT IS STILL FAR BEYOND THERE LINEAR ELECTRICAL UNDERSTANDING. THEY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE HOW IT WORKS. ALL THEY KNOW IS THAT IT WORKS AS ADVERTISED. 

 

PLUS I'M INCLUDING DR SPECKS MAIL TO ME. INDICATING HE DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE. WHAT WAS SHOWN HIM? HE IS 60 AND WENT TO MIT AND HAS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING BACKGROUND. THE PROBLEM IS HE WAS NEVER TAUGHT TESLA.

 

WE ARE POSSIBLY LOOKING FOR MARKETING AND DISTRIBUTION. AND R&D FUNDING. AND POSSIBLY A BIG BROTHER TO HIDE BEHIND TO AVOID THE INTENSE HEAT THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL CAUSE. IF ALL GOES WELL I SUGGEST YOU THINK ABOUT MOVING YOUR MONEY OUT OF ENERGY STOCKS IF YOU HAVE ANY INVESTMENTS IN THEM. BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY.  

 

I HAVE ALSO SPOKEN WITH DAN FUCHS TOYOTA'S GENERAL LEGAL COUNCIL HERE IN THE STATES AT THERE TECH. CENTER IN ANN ARBOR MI. BUT THE PARENT CO. IN JAPAN WANT'S PATENTS. SURE, SO THEY COULD STEAL THEM. EVERY THING WILL COVERED UNDER A TRADEMARK.

 

OUR CORPORATE LEGAL COUNCIL WHO IS RELATED TO ONE OF OUR MEMBERS IS PREPARING THE PAPERS NOW.  YAMAHA'S GENERAL LEGAL COUNCIL KAREN TEGGER SENT A LETTER FOR US TO SIGN BEFORE THEY WOULD TALK.  BUT WE DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING. UNLESS WE GENERATE IT.

 

  MAGNEQUENCH IN ANDERSON, INDIANA WHO BOUGHT THE PROCESS FROM GM HAS CONTACTED ME AFTER I CALLED THEM BECAUSE OUR DIRECTOR WANTS TO SELL THEM A SERIOUS UPGRADE TO THAT PROCESS. BASICALLY THE PART OF THE MATRIX THAT STUPID GM OBTAINED BUT COULD NOT FIGURE OUT.

 

PRINTED OR SPOKEN WORDS MEAN NOTHING. UNTIL PROVEN BY PHYSICALLY DEMONSTRATIONS. THE STORY ATTACHED IS FACTUAL AND GOOD LUCK FINDING ANYONE ON THIS PLANET THAT CAN EXPLAIN ANY OF THE DYNAMICS TO YOU THAT RESIDES IN THE LINEAR 19 TH. CENTURY THINKING SCIENTIFIC WORLD.

 

 

 

 

 PAGE 10.         I WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU DO NOT MINDED FIND YOURSELF A SELF TAUGHT HIGH END TECHNICAL PERSON.  THAT MAY HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF ELECTRICITY WITH A FINE VISIONARY BUSINESS MIND.  BECAUSE THEY MAY BE THE ONLY TYPE OF PERSON THAT HAS THE VAST DYNAMICS NECESSARY. TO GRASP THE TECHNOLOGICAL AND POSSIBLE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY ASPECTS OF THE CONCEPTS.

 

IF YOU TAKE THIS TO LINEAR CLOSE MINDED ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS AND PHYSICIST'S THEY WILL PROBABLY WASTE YOUR TIME. THEY WILL SAY IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. AND PROBABLY CALL IT PERPETUAL MOTION. PLEASE WE LIVE IN A GRAVITATION ATMOSPHERE. ALTHOUGH THAT IS HOW THE PLANETS WORK. DO WE NOT ROTATE AND MOVE THROUGH SPACE?

 

IF YOU DO TRY AND FINED OPEN MINDED ONES THAT CAN POSSIBLY SEE PAST THERE NOSE.   BECAUSE THE CLOSE MINDED ONE'S WILL LET THERE LINEAR EDUCATION'S STAND IN THERE WAY FROM SEEING THE POSSIBILITIES. BECAUSE IF IT IS TRUE THERE PRESENT ELECTRICAL AND MATH KNOWLEDGE IS BASICALLY OBSOLETE. ALSO ASK THEM WHAT FREQUENCY THE EARTH GIVES OFF. 

 

THEY WILL NOT BE HAPPY CAMPERS IF SOMEONE THAT HOLDS NO DEGREES AND IS NOT ONE OF THEM RAINS ON THERE LINEAR MOSTLY ARROGANT KNOW IT ALL PARADE.  AND MAKES OUR CURRENT LINEAR TECHNICAL EDUCATION SYSTEM APPEAR GROSSLY INADEQUATE. WHICH IT IS IF OUR DIRECTOR IS CORRECT?  THEY MADE THERE MISTAKE WHEN THE DID NOT STUDY TESLA., FARADAY OR A FEW OTHERS.

 

IN ANY CASE IF YOU WANT TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS BEEN TOLD TO YOU WILL NEED TO THINK AS A CHILD DOES. BECAUSE THEY ARE ALWAYS SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS BY ASKING QUESTION S. AND BEING INQUISITIVE. THEY CAN FOR THE MOST PART THINK BEYOND 3 DIMENSIONS. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PROGRAMMED AS OF YET. BY BEING TOLD THEY CANNOT DO THIS OR THAT BECAUSE IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. THAT IS THE BIGGEST DISSERVICE THAT IS DONE TO THEM.

WE ARE 4 AND SOMETIMES VERY MULTI DIMENSIONAL WHEN WE ARE BORN. EVEN THE BIBLE SAYS WE ARE. YOU KNOW IT IS NEVER WRONG. BUT MOST OF US LOSE THAT 4TH DIMENSION AS WE GROW UP. WE RETAIN SOME OF IT IF OUR PARENTS OR POSSIBLY A TEACHER ENCOURAGE US TO EXPAND OUR MINDS AND TELL US WE CAN ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING IF WE SET OUR MINDS TO DO SO.

THE BIGGEST DETERRENT IS OUR PRESENT EDUCATION SYSTEM. THEY WANT TO CONTROL YOU AND HAVE YOU DEPEND ON THE SYSTEM. WELL, THE SYSTEM LET YOU DOWN SEPT. 11. DIDN'T THEY. YOU CANNOT SUBSCRIBED TO LIGHT POST THEORY EITHER AS OUR SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY DOES FOR THE MOST PART. THAT IS IF YOU LOSE YOU KEYS YOU LOOK FOR THEM BY THE LIGHT POST. THE PROBLEM IS YOU DID NOT LOSE THEM BY THE LIGHT POST YOU LOST THEM IN THE DARK. SO THAT IS WHERE YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR THEM

AND FOR EVERY QUESTION YOU FIND A SOLUTION TO.  THERE ARE TEN MORE QUESTIONS CREATED. ANOTHER POINT MOST OF THEM MISS. FROM A SCIENTIFIC STAND POINT IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I TOLD YOU.  YOU HAVE TO ABLE TO SEPARATE MAXWELL'S THEORY OF ELECTROMAGNETISM INTO TWO DISTINCT DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.  ONE IS ELECTRICITY AND THE OTHER IS MAGNETISM.


 

PAGE  11.   CURRENT PHYSICS THEORY WILL TELL YOU THAT FOR MAGNETISM TO DO PHYSICAL WORK IT HAS TO BE IN An ELECTRICAL INDUCED ENVIRONMENT MEANING ELECTROMAGNETISM OR IN A PHYSICALLY OPERATING TYPE DEVICE. THAT THEORY IS WRONG.

 

 STATIONARY MAGNETISM CAN PERFORM PHYSICAL WORK. WE DEMONSTRATE IT PHYSICALLY. THE CHANGES THAT NEW THEORY WILL CAUSE IN HOW WE VIEW THE CREATION OF POWER/ENERGY ARE BASICALLY TOTALLY BEYOND THE MAJORITY OF THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITIES PRESENT UNDERSTANDING.

CURRENTLY THE TWO BIGGEST MYSTERIES IN SCIENCE IS MAGNETISM AND ELECTRICITY. THEY BASICALLY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE HOW THEY ACTUALLY WORK. WE INTEND TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. PERSONALLY IF IT WORKS IS ALL THAT MATTERS TO ME. WHO CARES HOW. AS LONG AS IT DOES.

BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE SCIENTIFIC MIND WORKS. PLUS THEY ARE NOT BUSINESS INCLINED. THAT IS WHERE THEY MISS IT. THEY DO NOT SEE OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT PRESENTS ITSELF. BUSINESS PEOPLE CAN SEE OPPORTUNITY AND WILL ACT ON IT THEY DO NOT CARE HOW IT WORKS. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE BUSINESS PEOPLE.

SCIENTIFIC TYPES DO NOT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT SEE IT. THEY SUFFER FROM TUNNEL VISION. AND GET TO A POINT THEY THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL. ANOTHER MISTAKE IN JUDGMENT ON THERE PART. A COLLEGE, Ph.D., IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING OR PHYSICS IS ONLY A STARTING POINT NOT THE END OF THE LEARNING PROCESS.


THE KEY IS TO NEVER STOP LEERING. AND TRYING TO EXPAND YOUR MIND. IN THE PAST MANY THEORIES FELL BY THE WAY SIDE AND WERE REPLACED WITH NEW ONES. THAT PROCESS WILL NOT CHANGE. THAT WILL BE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM OUR SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY WILL HAVE TO FACE IN THE FUTURE IS CHANGING WITH THE TIMES.

THEY WILL RESIST AS LONG AS THEY CAN. THE LAST THING THEY WILL WANT TO ADMIT IS THAT THEY DO NOT KNOW IT ALL. DO NOT BLAME US BLAME OUR CONTROLLED ARROGANT ELITIST EDUCATION SYSTEM FOR ALL OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS. PLUS THE PEOPLE THAT CONTROL THEM.

 

 THEY HAVE HAD THE TOOLS TO CHANGE THINGS AND IMPROVE LIVING CONDITIONS IN OUR SOCIETY FOR GENERATIONS. WHY HAVEN'T THEY DONE IT? BECAUSE THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE IN CONTROL. IT IS ALL ABOUT POWER AND MONEY.

THAT IS ALL FINE A GOOD FOR THOSE IN CONTROL. BUT MY GRANDCHILDREN AND THERE GRANDCHILDREN IF THEY CAN HAVE ANY  WHO I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO.  WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BREATH THE AIR OR DRINK THE WATER OR GO ON THE SURFACE OF THE PLANET.

 

 WITHOUT AIR CONDITIONED PROTECTIVE CLOTHING OR ARTIFICIAL BREATHING EQUIPMENT. UNLESS THEY LIVE IN A BUBBLE WHEN THERE MY AGE. IF IT CONTINUES THE WAY IT IS NOW.

IF THEY CANNOT AFFORD ONE THEY WILL BE LIVING IN CAVES OR IN UNDERGROUND ENVIRONMENTS. UNLESS YOU SEE ANOTHER OUTCOME THAN I DO. CONSIDERING WHAT YOU POSSIBLY KNOW NOW. WE ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT BUT THOSE WHO FOLLOW US ARE.

 

 PAGE 12.            BECAUSE THEY ARE US AND OUR FUTURE. WE OWE TO THEM TO PROVIDE THEM AN ENVIRONMENT IF AT ALL POSSIBLE AT LEAST AS GOOD AS OURS WAS WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP. PRESENTLY, WE ARE NOT LIVING UP TO THAT RESPONSIBILITY. THE QUESTION IS WHEN ARE GOING TO START TO.?

 

THE MOST INFORMATIVE ENGINEERING AND MATH BOOKS WERE PUBLISHED BETWEEN 1875 AND 1940. THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS HAS DID EVERY THING THEY CAN TO SUPPRESS THOSE BOOKS. WHY?? BIG POWER, COAL AND OIL ARE NOT STUPID. THEY WANT US TO BE SLAVES TO THE SYSTEM. AS WE ARE NOW.

 

 THE STATUS QUE. WILL ALSO HAVE TO GO.  WE HAVE INFINITE ENERGY MAGAZINE ON TAPE TESTING THE MACHINE IN THE STORY WITH THERE EXPENSIVE TEST EQUIPMENT.

 

THERE IS A MATRIX BUT THE SCANNER CHAMBER IS NOT READY YET.  THE SOFT WARE IS STILL A FEW YEARS AWAY. YOUR ARE AN ELECTRICALLY DRIVEN BEING. MEANING YOU ARE CONTROLLED BY FREQUENCY'S THE AVERAGE BODY FREQ. IS 7.8. THE SCANNER WILL DIAGNOSE PROBLEMS AND GIVE A READ OUT.

 

THEN THE MACHINE CAN BE SET FOR THERAPY AND CURING PROTOCOLS. THUS ELIMINATING MOST INVASIVE SURGERY AND NEED FOR DRUGS.  PLUS MOST DISEASES MAY BE ABLE TO BE CURED. ALSO NANO TECHNOLOGIES MAY BE POSSIBLE. THAT WOULD BE A PROCESS OF  INJECTING TINY MACHINES INTO YOU IF THEY HAVE SELF CONTAINED POWER SOURCES.

 

ALSO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE THEORETICAL EQUATION FOR SOLVING THE AIR POLLUTION PROBLEM UNTIL WE CAN GET RID OF INTERNAL COMBUSTION PLEASE CONTACT ME. BUT IN TIME IT WILL STILL BE NECESSARY FOR COMBUSTION TO GO.  BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE IT DOES TO THE WATER AND SOIL AT GROUND LEVEL. .

 

  I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO BOGGLE YOUR MIND AND WAKE YOU UP TO THE FINALITY OF IT ALL. IF WE CONTINUE ON OUR PRESENT COURSE.  HAVE I SUCCEEDED?? IF I HAVE NOT IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME.

 

DID YOU ENJOY YOUR POSSIBLE TRIP TO THE 23 RD CENTURY?? AND MY PSYCHO BABBLE PRESENTATION AS I CALL IT. BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE  MY MIND IS. OUR DIRECTOR'S IS LIGHT YEARS BEYOND THAT. IT HAS TAKEN ME TWO YEARS JUST TO LEARN THE CONCEPTS AND BE ABLE TO PRESENT THEM IN A REASONABLE MANNER. THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

 

IT HAS NOT BEEN AN EASY PROCESS. CONSIDERING I'M BASICALLY A TECHNOLOGICAL DOOR KNOB. BUT I CAN RUN MY MOUTH FAIRLY WELL. AS YOU HAVE FOUND OUT. I’M GENERALLY VERY BORING IF I’M NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY.

 

 I ALSO SPEAK AT HIGH SPEEDS SO I DO NOT WASTE ANYONE'S VALUABLE TIME.  I'M SORRY THIS MAIL IS SO LONG.  I HAVE PONTIFICATED ENOUGH AND I'M TIRED OF LISTENING TO MYSELF. HAVE A NICE DAY.   DR. SPECKS MAIL AND THE PUBLISHED STORY FOLLOW.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  PAGE 13.              .Subj: Confidential Technologies  Date: 12/5/01 8:53:44 AM Eastern Standard Time

From: carlton.speck@delphiauto.com To: jcarey9622@aol.com Sent from the Internet (Details)

 

Jack,           The person to contact concerning further discussions of your various technologies is Henrean Prater, Manager Technology Inquiries & Clearing. I have not been able to establish a phone number for her.  I have only been able to get an address.  It is:   Technologies Inquiries & Clearing   Delphi  technologies, Inc. Delphi Automotive Systems PO Box 5 Troy, MI 48099-0005

 

When we talked about further discusions, I indicated that these people would expect you to have IP protection of some sort; eg a patent, etc.  In our last discussion about your technology I indicated that I did not understand how it could work.  I still don't, but I wish you your best in pursuing it                 Carl

 

Report from Bruce Meland: Editor, Electrifying Times   Email  Etimes@teleport.com

 

   Confidential Technologies,  Flint MI. has developed a super efficient rotating transformer. It can utilize  electricity from the GRID  more effectively than is presently possible When it passes through their super efficient rotating transformer, the unit is using FREQUENCY'S that are currently wasted that are contained in electricity to create power instead of using amps. from a 110 V or 220 V electric power supply. The 110v to 3 phase units are more efficient than 220v to 3 phase units. The unit is basically a 3 Hp motor/generator that can create 3 phase industrial power. 12/2 common house wire is feeding the RT without the wires getting hot.  Some people refer to the technology as cold electricity.

 

  Also CT's industrial 3 phase motors using this new type of electrical power the unit is transforming, use far less power to operate and never get hot! The RT's  output capacity depends on the voltage being supplied by the power company. Its capacity is higher if the volts are at the 120 level as opposed to say 98 volts being delivered by the grid. Volts being delivered will change sometimes daily. The unit is delivering a situation that causes 3 phase motors to operate more efficient. by drastically reducing the amp draw from the grid thus costing you far less to operate equipment. Plus now you can operate 3 phase equipment anywhere on the planet by only requiring single phase power as a feed factor. . .  

 

   Most three phase motors do get quite warm in conventional operations. For example the CT 3 hp motor that runs their industrial air compressor requires about 390 watts to operate to 160 psi. In a conventional situation 2200 watts would be required to operate the 3 Hp. motor. The air compressor calls for a conventional 5 hp motor which would require 3650 watts to operate in a normal  situation. Confidential Technologies will make a larger 220v inverter version for Better World Technologies' Sundance generator system. That system will produce 2 watts through the generator that also enhances the power it receives for every watt that CT's system draws from the wall.   This technology will relieve the heavy demands presently being placed on the power grids nationwide. Confidential Technologies is presently negotiating with several companies world wide for licensing agreements.

 

   The CT inverter/converter can also be a separate product for people that need three phase in many situations where the power utilities do not provide it. CT has also developed advanced electro-dynamic equations to better define the process and are also developing more advanced electricity delivery systems. The present higher math, taught at most universities cannot explain the new CT process. CT's breakthrough is also light years beyond textbook electro-dynamics presently taught to physicists and electrical engineers world wide.

 

   Electricity from the grid has wasted kinetic energy contained in the delivery process. According to Confidential Technologies this energy is not presently being used. CT knows how to utilize the excess electrical magnetic energy in the form of magnetic flux and plasma fields that are being created in the process. Confidential Technologies also claim that free electrons are also being captured from the environment which also makes the process more efficient.

 

 PAGE 14.           The question to you the reader is: From where do the electrons come, and do many researchers know about magnetic flux and plasma fields that are being created by the rotating inverter-transformer? I have been to Flint Mi. and saw the unit being demonstrated. They claim the unit has been in operation for several years. It appeared that it has had extensive use.

 

   Nicola Tesla, the greatest inventor of all time, invented the majority of the technology. C T, a company that could possibly become a  major company in the energy conservation field, was able to figure out and refine the rotating transformer process.  J. P. Morgan and George Westinghouse stopped Tesla from marketing it by cutting off his financing. Standard Oil knew he could create viable electric cars that would not require recharging so they gave interest free money to Henry Ford to make internal combustion engines. the dominate propulsion system in auto's. Too many internal combustion engines world wide mandates radial technology advances entering the marketplace.

 

  Confidential Technologies can be reached through Direct Electronics 1815 Davison Rd. Flint, Michigan, 48506  jcarey9622@aol.com   CELL   810 701 0233   Page 810 812 4033 or HOME 810 744 9587 this story has been modified to some extent from the    original publishing of it.   By Confidential Technologies  to clarify the explanations. CT considers this a Quantum leap and a major breakthrough in power conservation. 

 

Electrifying Times will continue to provide you with vital information about this revolution. Subscribe and keep informed.

 


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Some of the crazy dialog with Jack Carey

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com, mike@ucsofa.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, etimes@teleport.com

Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 14:18:22 EDT

 

TED   YOU AND YOUR GAMES ARE REAL TIRING THIS IS JUST NOT WORTH MY TIME TO

ANSWER  EXCEPT TO SAY IF WE PUB. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BACK UP OTHERWISE WE

LOSE CREDITABLILTY AND YOU LIVE 50 MI AWAY AND SEND MAILS FOR 10 MONTHS ABOUT THE WAY IT HAS BEEN FOR 100 YEARS    ENOUGH TO BE HERE 8 TIMES TO CHECK     

MON NIGHT MAY BE OPEN TO CHECK  OTHER WISE NEXT WEEKEND 

 

I DO NOT CARE EITHER WAY YOUR A NOBODY ANYWAY AS ERIC IS  YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO PUFF YOUR CHEST OUT AND MAKE YOURSELF THINK YOUR IMPORTANT AS KRIEG DOES BECAUSE HE IS A NO BODY CUBE BOY EE AT SOME CO.  AS JERRY WILLIAMSON IS AND ALL HAVE BIG ARROGANT KNOW IT ALL EGO's  IF THIS IS FACTUAL NONE OF YOU KNOW SQUAT ABOUT ELECTRICAL SITUATIONS PERIOD YOU COULD NOT EXPLAIN THE DEMO YOU SAW AND DECLINED THE CHANCE TO CHECK WHEN OFFERED    BUT HAVE ATTEMPTED TO PLAY IT DOWN IN MANY MAILS 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com, mike@ucsofa.com, dougl@pshift.com,

              cktilley@bellsouth.net

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, etimes@teleport.com

Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 14:35:15 EDT

Subject: Re: Jack believes anything published, can't test.

 

      WE DO NOT DISCUSS IN TECH TERMS WE JUST DEMO ACTUAL SITUATIONS WHICH

MEANS  WE DO NOT HAVE TO IF WE DO NOT WISH TO  AND WILL NOT JUST TO PISS OFF

PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL WELL IF YOU KNOW IT ALL PROVE IT

ON TAPE TESTING THE RTPC 

 

  I KNOW 99.9999999999999999% THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN PERIOD AND YOU WILL

BECOME A NON ISSUE ALONG WITH ERIC AND JERRY AT THAT POINT    I PREDICT LIKE

ERIC DOES ALSO  BUT I KNOW MINE  WILL COME TRUE AS- HOLE 

 

we can explain tilley i have replies from them it is not that big of a deal  Plus can explain in person not in mail what they are doing      why are they using batteries is my question  ??   when all, they need is a drive motor and one of our situations that is far beyond batteries that i'm not discussing in mail. because i do not have to i/we/us  can show phase con. in a minor aspect and your math is gone for good  i predict you have 10 months of mails and are 50 mi away  hello

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com

Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:03:09 EDT

Subject: Re: Fw: [free_energy] free energy  - lining up an eye witness for the Tilly d...

 

IF YOU WANT TO COME HERE WE WILL EXPLAIN TILLEY  in detail AND SHOW REAL

WORLD CHANGING SITUATIONS IF NOT WE WILL PAY FOR YOUR TRIP  TED IS NOT

WELCOME IF YOU COME   UNDERSTAND  I PREDICT IF YOU DO 99% OF WHAT YOU WERE

TAUGHT IS OBSOLETE AND YOU WILL BE ON TAPE THAT YOU GET A COPY OF ALSO

 

I CAN PUT YOU UP IF YOU WISH I HAVE AN EXTRA BEDROOM IF THAT WOULD HELP.  I

HAVE WHAT IS CONSIDERED AROUND HERE A 200,000 HOME AND PROVIDE TRANS PORT AS I DID FOR DENNIS FROM OUR FLINT AIRPORT OR DET.  METRO IF NECESSARY IT IS AN

HR. AWAY. AND THEN WE CAN GET THESE ISSUES SETTLED ONCE AND FOR ALL  ONE WAY  OR ANOTHER ENOUGH WITH THE MAILS ALL READY  YOU TURNED DOWN MY OFFER TO COME THERE  

   WE HAVE TEST EQ. OR BRING YOUR OWN METERS IS ALL THAT IS REQUIRED as

infinite energy did with three days notice when the demo was described to them over the phone which you are aware of in many mails and a pub. story. there is no need to keep discussing it you have been told what is shown many times unless ted will come at our convience which at this point is MON NIGHT

POSSIBLY THIS IS A VAC. WEEKEND FOR MANY A I'M GOING NORTH ALSO TODAY TO SEE

A BAND I'M PROBABLY WILL PROMOTE  BUT SHOULD BE BACK BY MON. NIGHT AND WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH W ALSO IF TED WANTS TO COME AND CARE LESS IF HE OR YOU DOES

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com,

              wizzard9@earthlink.net, vman@skylink.net,

              editor@infinite-energy.com, mike@ucsofa.com, halfox@qwest.net

Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:48:18 EDT

Subject: Re: Testing the RTPC, when?

 

      I DO NOT HAVE TO  BE  A TECH. TYPE  THAT IS WHERE YOU  SKEPTIC ELECTRICAL CLOWNS ERIC, TED AND JERRY  MISS THE POINT AS USUAL  W IS AND ALSO A BUS. TYPE     I'M A BUS. TYPE  BUT CAN EXPLAIN CONCEPTS BUT NOT  the TECH. ASPECTS   BUS. IS  SOMETHING YOU CLOWNS DO NOT HAVE A CLUE ONE ABOUT PERIOD  BECAUSE IT IS CLEAR YOU HAVE BASICALLY ZERO EXPERENCE AT IT  I HAVE SOME TIME  TO WASTE ON YOU HE DOES NOT  WE DO NOT TALK TECH. SO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BECAUSE YOU DO NOT TALK LIKE YOU HAVE  ANY BUS. KNOWLEDGE   YOU KNOW WHAT IS  IN A BOOK THAT YOU USE AS A BIBLE  IF IT IS WRONG YOUR SCREWED  PURE AND  SIMPLE  AND YOU MAY POSSIBLY  BE STARTING TO COME TO THAT CONCLUSION   AND WILL USE ANY FORM OF WHATEVER TO AVOID THAT HAPPENING BECAUSE IF IT DOES AND YOUR  AT A MAJOR LOSS IN UNDERSTANDING YOUR BASICALLY NON ISSUES AT THAT POINT

 

AND THERE GOES YOU KNOW IT EGO'S AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR MAJOR ROADBLOCK IS YOUR ARROGANT EGO'S   I LOVE STICKING THE KNIFE IN SO TO SPEAK AND YOU PROVIVE ME MANY CHANCES TO DO SO BECAUSE OF YOUR ATTITUDES  SO MY GRAMMAR IS POOR SO WHAT  I GET THE POINT ACCROSS   REMEMBER I'M THE TOWN CRYER SO TO SPEAK    SO I USE CAPS FOR THAT REASON

 

rom: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com, eric@voicenet.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com

Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 16:22:09 EDT

Subject: Re: You where not available for testing

 

        YOU CALLED INFINITE SORRY THEY DID NOT HOW IT WORKED BUT CANNOT DENY

IT DOES  LISTEN IDIOT WE HAVE A DEMO  THAT  WE SAY PROVES NEW ELECTRICAL

THEORY  FAR BEYOND YOUR BOOK KNOWLEDGE YOU APPEARENTLY CANNOT UNDESTAND IF SO THAT  IS YOUR PROBLEM NOT OURS

 

NONE OF THIS OTHER SHIT HAS ANY BEARING YOU KEEP  TALKING ABOUT OVER AND

OVER  TEST IT  AS STATED WITH TEST EQ AS OTHERS HAVE OR SHUT THE FUCK UP  you

have avoided me for 10 months now your calling on a holiday weekend to come   WHO IN THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ?? YOUR A FUCKING NOBODY AS ERIC AND JERRY IS  DO YOU OR THEM PUB. A NATIONAL MAG.  ?? FUCK NO  YOU SIT BEHIND COMPUTERS AND TAKE POT SHOTS AND AS I SEE SO FAR WILL NOT FACE ANYONE ONE TO ONE IN PERSON

 

WHEN YOU DO  PUB. A NATIONAL PUB.  CALL ME OTHERWISE STOP WASTING MY TIME ASS HOLE WITH YOUR  MAILS  THAT SAY BASICALLY ZERO IF THEY SAID SOMETHING

WORTHWHILE IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT   YOU NO CHECKING CLOWNS ARE A JOKE AND A

BAD ONE AT THAT  10 MONTHS OF LONG MAILS TED GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com

Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 13:18:24 EDT

Subject: Re: Jack is ranting again.

 

<PRE>  ERIC TED ACTS LIKE AN ASS HOLE I WILL REACT TO AN ACTION AS I EXPECT YOU TO DO GIVEN THE SAME SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO YOU SKEPTICS THINK YOU ARE ALL I SEE IS ARROGANCE FROM YOU PEOPLE AND EXCUSES  FOR NOT CHECKING  FOR 10 MONTHS AND CARE LESS IF HE DOES  BUT HE CAN COME LATER TODAY BUT HAS TO CALL FIRST THIS IS LABOR DAY WEEKEND OTHERWISE IT WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNLESS HE IS HERE AT NOON TUES.

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com, eric@voicenet.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com,

              dhowe17@hotmail.com, ghawk@eskimo.com, wizzard9@earthlink.net,

              etimes@teleport.com

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 00:31:05 EDT

Subject: Re: Trying to get to Flint to test RTPC

 

   SORRY        HE DOES NOT HAVE TIME TO PLAY WITH YOU PEOPLE  YOUR JUST NOT

WORTH HIS TIME  BUT I HAVE TIME   BUT NOT FOR MUCH LONGER  BECAUSE OUR NEXT

PUBLIC SHOWING WILL BE THE END OF YOU SKEPTICAL PEOPLE ONCE AND FOR ALL

 

THAT IS WHY I HAVE LAID THE GROUND WORK FOR THAT HAPPENING BY MAKING EVERYONE AWARE YOU PEOPLE DO NOT CHECK ANYTHING JUST TALK  YOUR END  WOULD HAVE BEEN TODAY BUT YOU DID NOT COME  AND YOU CALLED AT THE BEGINNING OF A MAJOR WEEKEND FOR A REASON

 

PLEASE TED DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE ME  AS YOU HAVE FROM DAY ONE YOUR GAME IS

VERY EASY TO SEE  THAT WAY YOU CAN SAY I TRIED BUT THEY WERE NOT AVAILABLE NO SHIT  HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON MAJOR HOLIDAY  WEEKENDS 

 

NOW  I NEED AT LEAST 3 DAYS NOTICE NOW BECAUSE OF MY AND HIS SCHEDULES FROM

NOW ON ARE VERY TIGHT BECAUSE OF  TECHNOLOGY BUS. SITUATIONS THAT MAKE YOU AND ERIC  BASICALLY A MOOT POINT  DID YOU SEE BONIER WHO LOST THE GOV. RACE ON TV TALKING ABOUT FLINT AND MAKING IT A TECHNOLOGY  POWER CENTER      WHO DID YOU THINK HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ??  HELLO  TED, JERRY AND ERIC  ARE YOU THERE ??

 

  YOU HAVE BECOME BASICALLY NON ISSUES TO US AND NOT REALLY WORTH OUR TIME

WHERE AS 10 MONTHS AGO WAS A DIFFERENT STORY BUT NOW IT IS IMMATERIAL WHETHER YOU CAME OR NOT OR ERIC EITHER SORRY TO DEFLATE YOUR THINK YOUR IMPORTANT  BIG TIME VERIFIERS OR DISPROVERS  OF TECHNOLOGY  EGO'S    I CANNOT BELIEVE YOUR KNOW IT ALL EGO's 

 

SOON YOU NOTHING MORE THAN BORING SIDE SHOWS LOCKED IN YOUR BOOK TAUGHT 

BOXES AS YOU PROBABLY ALWAYS WILL BE SUCKING YOUR THUMBS SAYING IT WAS THIS WAY FOR 100 YEARS AND WHAT I'M SEEING WHICH IS ALL TOGETHER DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I WAS TAUGHT IS JUST NOT REAL AND IF I SHUT MY EYES IT MAY GO AWAY 

SORRY IT IS NOT GOING TO  I CAN SEE YOU CLOWNS NOW DOING EXACTLY THAT  I CAN

PREDICT JUST AS ERIC DOES

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: jerry.williamson@amd.com, eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com,

              wizzard9@earthlink.net, vman@skylink.net,

              editor@infinite-energy.com, mike@ucsofa.com, halfox@qwest.net

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 00:46:54 EDT

Subject: Re: Testing the RTPC, when?

 

<PRE>SELF TAUGHT IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO AND THE SCHOOL OF HARD KNOCKS IS THE BEST EXPERIENCE   I HAVE HAD 3 MBA'S CALL ME AND HAVE ASKED ME WHAT I THINK  IT PISSES THEM OFF SOMETIMES WHEN THEY HAVE TO CURSE SOME OF THE THINGS THEY WERE TAUGHT THAT NOW THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME ON YOU BEING SPECIFIC IT IS NOT WORTHWHILE PISS ANT CUBE BOY EE

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com

Cc: vcrepair@juno.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 01:01:01 EDT

 

<PRE>          FURTHER COMMENT ENOUGH WITH YOUR GAMES PEOPLE AND LAME EXCUSES  YOU HAVE HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME TO CHECK  ESPECIALLY SOMETHING OF THIS POSSIBLE  EVOLUTIONARY QUANTUM LEAP IN ELECTRICAL UNDERSTANDING MAGNITUDE  IDIOTS WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BETTER POTATO PEELER   LETS US KNOW WHEN YOU GET YOUR MBA IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO JERRY   MBA THIS ARROGANT  ASS HOLE 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:38:34 EDT

 

In a message dated 9/3/02 7:17:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, vcrepair@juno.com writes:

It would be good to see a public demonstration of Confidential Technology equipment. BUT we expect to have experts there, not just a bunch of free energy believers. After all I was the ONLY one from the public that even bothered to try testing the Sundance generator at Dennis Lee show in Flint, so either no otherexperts where there or they didn't want to bother.


REPLY YOU DECLINED TO TEST THE RTPC


Why is it in all this time, 15 years or more that Wayne has been building RTPC, YOU can't show us some real test results.

REPLY THEY ARE PUB. AND THAT IS ALL GET ALONG WITH A DEMO TO BACK UP

I didn't see Bonior's commercial on television, but if he had promised to make Flint, MI a "power house" with new jobs, etc. why would that have cost him the election? You claim it was Confidential Technology that he was talking about. So now we can blame his election lost and the non demonstration of Sundance generator on July 4 on you and Wayne. ;-)


THIS WAS NOT A COMMERICAL AND IT JUST HAPPENED A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO I JUST HEARD ABOUT IT BUT DID NOT SEE IT

We never said we where "BIG SHOTS" or anything, just skeptics who want to learn more about alleged technology. BUT YOU can't answer simple questions, don't understand simple electrical theory or science, or standard units of power.


REPLY I DO NOT NEED TO BECAUSE I/WE CAN DEMO ACTUAL OPERATIONAL SITUATIONS
ENOUGH TED TEST OR NOT I'M TIRED OF YOUR RUNNING YOUR MOUTH ABOUT THIS AND THAT WHICH HAS ZERO BEARING ON THE ISSUES IN ENDLESS MAILS FOR MONTHS

So why should we believe anything you say about technical devices? In all this time you can NOT show us one reliable person who has tested the RTPC and confirmed your claims. You can NOT show how much power is produced by connecting a generator to the motor and using that to
power other things in your home.

When I followed up on some people you mention as supporting Confidential Technology, they all denied it. But September 7th demonstration in Nashville, TN will make your RTPC obsolete, so your public demonstration will be moot.

BTW, what ever happened to the documentary film crew from Australia, did they ever make show about Confidential Technology? If they did get there, wouldn't it be good to have a skeptic there also so you can show why they are wrong?

I'm sorry I didn't' get chance to go to Flint, but it's hard to plan several day in advance when I can get to Flint. But if a friend happens to be going to Flint about noon or whenever, maybe I can call you and try to stop by for an hour or so to measure the voltage, current and power of RTPC and motors.

What does Wayne do at the factory, is he the head electrician?

PS. Jack: try to get all your thoughts together in one or two emails instead of sending half a dozen rants a day. ;-)

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com, eric@voicenet.com

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:51:51 EDT

Subject: Re: Jack claims to be promoter and business man

 

In a message dated 9/3/02 7:17:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, vcrepair@juno.com writes:

REPLY WE HAVE A STATED DEMO TEST IT OR SHUT UP YOU SAW THE LAST MAIL FROM THE DOC PEOPLE IN THE SPRING YOU ASK THEM YOUR 50 MI AWAY AND CANNOT GET HERE IN 10 MONTHS BUT CAN WRITE ENOUGH MAILS TO BE HERE 8 TIMES TED GIVE ME A BREAK PLEASE YOUR AN IDIOT THAT IS APPEARENT ERIC ADMIT IT THIS GUY IS NOTHING BUT A CLOWN ONE CONVERSATION ON THE PHONE WITH HIM WILL PROVE THAT TO YOU UNLESS YOUR LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO KISS YOUR ASS AFTER ALL YOU ARE HIS HERO ERIC'S GOAL IS TO HAVE FOLLOWERS SO HE CAN PUFF UP HIS BIG EGO


From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:12:31 EDT

Subject: shit or get off the pot

 

IF An  ACTUAL OPERATIONAL  DEMO AS YOU HAVE ALL READY SAW IN PERSON 

PROVES NEW ELECTRICAL THEORY BASICALLY THE FIRST  NEW IN 100 YEARS THAT YOU DECLINED TO CHECK WHEN OFFERED THE CHANCE TO DO SO

 

  THAT IS ALL THAT IS  NECESSARY PERIOD WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT THAT IS

THE WAY IT WILL BE  AND ALL YOUR YAPPING IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT FACT 

AND IF YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW IT FUNCTIONS THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM NOT OURS

 

WE ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO SHOW THE DEMO NOTHING ELSE GOT IT ?     AND TILLEY

IS A MOOT POINT BUT HOPE HE SHOVES IT IN YOUR AS-  WE WILL EXPLAIN IN PERSON

ONLY WHAT HE IS DOING NOT IN MAIL  BECAUSE MAILS AND PHONE CONVERSATIONS ARE BASICALLY A WASTE OF TIME WITH YOU PEOPLE WE ARE NOT HAVEING ANYMORE OF EITHER THIS IS IT WE ARE DONE UNTIL I SEE PLANS TO CHECK IN THE HEADING 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:08:58 EDT

Subject: Re: shit or get off the pot

 

<PRE>          THE ISSUE IS NOW AND I'M TIRED OF PLAYING WITH HIM IT HAS BEEN 10

MONTHS OF MAILS ERIC THAT IS 10 TIMES MORE THAN NEEDED  ENOUGH ALL READY YOU ACT LIKE HE IS 10,000 MI AWAY  NOT 50   I KNOW HE OR YOU CANNOT EXPLAIN OR

DENY BTDT WITH SEVERAL SITUATIONS ON A NAT. LEVEL ALL READY WHO ARE CLUELESS ALSO THAT IS THEIR PROBLEM NOT OURS AS LONG AS IT FUNCTIONS AS ADVERTISED IS ALL THAT MATTERS PERIOD

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: jerry.williamson@amd.com, eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com,

              wizzard9@earthlink.net, vman@skylink.net,

              editor@infinite-energy.com, mike@ucsofa.com, halfox@qwest.net

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:20:34 EDT

Subject: Re: Testing the RTPC, when?

 

<PRE>     JERRY YOUR JUST TOTALLY CLUELESS  AND HAVE TOTALLY WRONG IMPRESSIONS PLUS A NOBODY  AND YOUR JUST NOT WORTH MY TIME BUT WILL DISCUSS ON THE PHONE BUT YOUR GUTLESS AND WILL NOT DO THAT  YOU WANT TO HIDE BEHIND A COMPUTER     810 618 9234

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: jerry.williamson@amd.com, eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:16:13 EDT

Subject: Re: Testing the RTPC, when?

 

     JERRY    I WILL SAY YOUR AN ASS HOLES ASS HOLE AND I'M GOING TO ENJOY TO

NO END RAINING ON YOUR  ARROGANT KNOW IT ALL SCI. PARADE YOU ARE CLUELESS

ABOUT BUS. ALSO BUT THINK YOUR AN EXPERT ON EVERYTHING IT MUST BE NICE TO

KNOW IT ALL I'M GLAD I DO NOT THEN I'M ABLE TO LEARN WHERE YOU ARE NOT

BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT ALL

 

ALL I HAVE TO DO IS ASK YOU AND YOU TELL ME YOU DO  AS ERIC AND TED DO ALSO 

AND SOONER OR LATER YOUR CO. WILL BE CONTACTING US TO USE OUR NEW SITUATIONS THAT IS WHEN  YOUR MINE DICK HEAD AND I'M NOT USING K-Y EITHER   BECAUSE ASS HOLE THAT IS WHEN YOU CAN COLOR YOURSELF GONE  THE SMART PERSON WOULD SAY TED YOUR 50 MI AWAY YOU  MAY WANT TO CHECK THE CLAIMS TO SEE IF THEY REAL  FIRST BEFORE OPENING THEIR MOUTH BUT NOT THE KNOW IT ALL EE TYPE LIKE YOU AND ERIC NO YOU CLOWNS JUST KEEP RUNNING YOUR MOUTHS AS TED DOES 

BECAUSE IF THIS IS REAL YOU PEOPLE HAVE MADE COMPLETE  FOOLS OUT YOURSELVES FOR NOT CHECKING FIRST BEFORE YOU DID  PLUS TED HAD ALL READY SAW A PUBLIC DEMO  ARROGANCE WILL GET YOU EVERYTIME   I DID NOT EXPECT YOU WOULD CHECK SO THAT IS THE REASON FOR ALL THE MAIL SO YOU CLOWNS WOULD BURY YOURSELVES THANKS YOU IDIOTS FOR MAKING IT POSSIBLE 

 

I LOVE CLOSE NARROW MINDED SKEPTICS THEY ARE SO EASY  YOU CLOWNS NEVER

STOPPED TO THINK BRUCE MELAND DROVE ALL THE WAY FROM KENTUCKY WHEN TOYOTA HAD FLEW HIM THERE AND THEN BACK TO KENTUCKY TO FLY BACK TO THE COAST THEN PUBLISHED A STORY PLUS I WAS JUST THERE ALSO IN JUNE IT WAS NOT A VAC. EITHER WHY WOULD I BE DRIVING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY SETTING UP SITUATIONS IF THIS WAS NOT REAL  I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU IDIOTS ARE THAT STUPID  I KNOW YOUR THAT ARROGANT

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:21:00 EDT

Subject: Re: Talked to electrician today

 

<PRE>OUR TECH PEOPLE HANDLE WEB PAGES AND IT IS ALMOST DONE  DID YOU TELL HIM YOU SAW A DEMO AND WHAT YOU SAW ??   NOW YOU WILL ONLY GET SO MUCH ON THE WEB  AND WILL HAVE TO BUY ADDITIONAL INFO.  THAT WILL CONSIST OF DEMO SITUATIONS 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com, eric@voicenet.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:32:41 EDT

Subject: Re: Talked to electrician today

 

   WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT I HAVE OFFERED TO COME PICK YOU UP

BRING THAT ASS HOLE TO AND TEST METERS I'M REAL TIRED OF YOUR SHIT RUNNING

MOUTH 10 months is enough it is time to eat your mails so to speak  lets get it done ONE WAY OR ANOTHER  EITHER YOUR CORRECT OR WE ARE 

 

TEST TO SEE ENOUGH WITH YOUR MOUTH SO WHEN CAN YOU BE HERE  EXACTLY THIS  SAT.OR SUN.  IN THE AFTERNOON  WHICH IS IT ?? YOU HAVE PLENTY OF NOTICE     

NO MORE EXCUSES ONE WEEK DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE I EVEN TRYIED THIS PAST ONE TO WHAT EXTENT I COULD WITHOUT MUCH NOTICE FROM YOU      DO YOU HAVE A CAR?  CAN YOU DRIVE? WHAT IS THE PROBLEM  HERE ?   YOU APPEARENTLY DO NOT BECAUSE YOUR ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT COMING WITH SOMEONE  THAT I WISH YOU WOULD BRING ESPECALLY YOUR ELECT . FRIEND

 

 From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: jerry.williamson@amd.com, eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:40:37 EDT

Subject: Re: shit or get off the pot

 

In a message dated 9/3/02 11:17:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, jerry.williamson@amd.com writes:

The burden of proof is on you to prove that it works. [You know it almost seems like you WANT us to try and figure out how it does or doesn't work because you are unable to figure it out yourself.]


REPLY ASS HOLE TED NEEDS TO CHECK FIRST THAT IT DOES YOU CLOWNS ARE NOT GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT I'M SURE OF THAT 99.9999999999999999999999% YOU MIS READ EVERYTHING AND ARE TOTALLY ASS BACKWARDS

After 10 months, Jack, you don't even need us! Just start  manufacturing the damn thing and if customers are happy with it --it will be a commercial success regardless of what we think. Okay?

REPLY I AGREE WE DO NOT NEED YOU CLOWNS BUT STILL WISH TO BURY YOU ASS HOLES BECAUSE OF YOUR ATTITUDES AND WILL ONE WAY OR ANOTHER

Otherwise you are wasting your time with all of these useless emails.

REPLY IT IS MY TIME ASS HOLE AND IT WAS USED FOR A REASON



From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: jerry.williamson@amd.com, eric@voicenet.com

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:10:32 EDT

 

<PRE> AS USUAL TED HAS 25 EXCUSES WHY HE CANNOT CHECK BUT CAN WRITE ANOTHER LONG MAIL  AND WILL NOT DISCUSS COMING THIS WEEKEND WHY.?/ THIS IS NOT THAT

DIFFICULT TO CHECK WITH METERS AND IS AS STATED  PERIOD    WE WOULD BE STUPID

TO SAY OTHERWISE IF GOD CALLED YOU YOU WOULD ARGUE WITH HIM TO   TED IS THE

ONE THAT RUNS HIS MOUTH  HE SHOULD BACK IT UP WE ARE WILLING TO BY LETTING

HIM CHECK 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: jerry.williamson@amd.com, eric@voicenet.com

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:14:54 EDT

 

>   WE DO IT A DIFFERENT WAY AND IT WORKS FOR US WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU WE

TELL AND SHOW WHAT IS USES AND THE RESULTS  SEE HOW SIMPLE IT IS  BUT YOU

CLOWNS DO NOT UNDERSTAND SIMPLE

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com, eric@voicenet.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com,

              editor@infinite-energy.com, halfox@qwest.net,

              vman@skylink.net, wizzard9@earthlink.net, mike@ucsofa.com,

              etimes@teleport.com, director@faraday.ru, office@faraday.ru,

              dhowe17@hotmail.com, ghawk@eskimo.com,

              patrickcadore@sterlingpublications.com,

              eljarpro@alphalink.com.au, esd@ecosustainable.com.au,

              jonathan@seaspower.com, carlton.speck@delphiauto.com,

              adolf.schneider@datacomm.ch, albert.wiedemann@mchm.siemens.de

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:04:56 EDT

 

TED THE ELECTRICAL SKEPTIC IN DETROIT MI   YOU APPEAR TO HAVE IT ASS BACKWARDS AS USUAL AS ERIC  KREIG AND JERRY DO ALSO  INSTEAD OF TALKING TO PEOPLE WHY DON'T YOU CHECK FOR YOURSELF OR ARE YOU INSECURE IN YOUR ABILITIES AT CHECKING  AT IT APPEARS YOU ARE  

 

BECAUSE YOU HAVE AVOIDED DOING SO FOR ALMOST A YEAR  AND YOUR 50 MI AWAY AND STOP TRYING TO PLAY DOWN THE DEMO YOU SAW THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE ACCORDING TO YOUR ELECTRICAL MATH BUT WAS DEMONSTRATED IN PUBLIC OPERATIONAL AT A HOTEL HERE  AND YOU DECLINED TO CHECK AS THE OTHERS DID ALSO  when offered the chance to do so  AND IF SO IS EVOLUTIONARY REDISCOVERED  Tesla inspired ELECTRICAL THEORY   BUT IF YOU WOULD HAVE CHECKED  IT APPEARS YOU COULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXPLAIN   any of the demo    

 

  IT APPEARS FROM YOUR KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE DISPLAYED IN YOUR MANY MAILS THAT INDICATE YOUR HAVE ZERO UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED to you on several occasions  BECAUSE OF YOUR CONTINUING ONE SIDED LINEAR IN THE BOX IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY  MAILS  IT WOULD MAKE COMMON SENSE TO CHECK BEFORE OPENING YOUR MOUTH ABOUT LINEAR KNOWLEDGE WHEN CLAIMS OF THIS MAGNITUDE ARE MADE

 

COMMON SENSE IS ONE THING I HAVE NOT SEEN FROM YOU SKEPTICS JUST ARROGANCE AND KNOW IT ALL ATTITUDES IS ALL THAT IS BASICALLY DISPLAYED BY YOU PEOPLE  INFINITE CANNOT EXPLAIN  THAT I KNOW OF AND WOULD BE ASKED TO IF THEY PUBLISHED AND WOULD THEN APPEAR AS FOOLS WHEN THEY COULD NOT UNLESS WE TELL THEM HOW IT FUNCTIONS WHICH IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN PERIOD POOR GENE  MALLOVE A CATCH 22 FOR HIM BECAUSE OF HIS CONTROL ATTITUDE GETTING IN THE WAY OF HIS JUDGEMENT

 

Bruce Meland does not have INFINITE ENERGY'S  arrogance problem  PLUS HE  DROVE SEVERAL HUNDRED MILES TO SEE US THAT IS WHY I PAID MY RESPECTS TO HIM  AND SHOWED  HIM ON TAPE NOW OBSOLETE ADVANCED VERSIONS OF WHAT HE SAW HERE BY DRIVING ALL THE WAY FROM SAN FRAN TO BEND OR. AND BACK WHICH WAS TWO DAYS EACH WAY AND BECAUSE OF THAT HE WILL BE PRIVY TO AND BE ABLE TO PUBLISH NEW SITUATIONS BEFORE ANYONE ELSE DOES ALONG WITH RUSSIANS

 

WHO WILL GET OUR SITUATIONS SECOND  GENE MALLOVE  THE EDITOR OF INFINITE ENERGY HAD FIRST SHOT BUT BLEW IT BIG TIME   but  NO TECH. INFO WILL EVER BE PUBLISHED ONLY CONCEPTS WITH DEMOS TO BACK THEM UP THE RUSSIANS ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT BUT IT IS OUR BUS. WHAT WE DO AS LONG AS WE CAN DEMO NEW EVOLUTIONARY ELECTRICAL  THEORIES IS ALL THAT MATTERS TO US AND BUS. TYPES JUST CARE IF IT WORKS AS ADVERTISED NOT HOW WHICH IS ALL YOU SKEPTIC  SCI. CLOWNS CAN THINK ABOUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE ZERO BUS. KNOWLEDGE AND I GRIND IT IN EVERY CHANCE I GET THAT YOU DO NOT

 

STERLING PUBLICATIONS IN LONDON WAS HOT TO TROT BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED  I THINK I KNOW  WHAT BUT I'M NOT POSITIVE  BECAUSE  BIG CORP. SITUATIONS ARE THE MAIN STAY OF THERE BUS. AND I DID ALERT THE WORLD THEY WERE REAL INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AS FAR AS FLACK. THEY MAY RECEIVE FOR CONDIDERING PUBLISHING  

 

AFTER ALL THEY DID CALL OUT OF THE BLUE  BECAUSE SOMEONE I DO NOT KNOW SENT THEM ONE OF MY MAILS AND WHEN THEY CALLED THEY  TALKED TO ME FOR 3 HR's  BUT CARE LESS IF YOU SKEPTICS BELIEVE THAT OR NOT FACE IT YOU SKEPICS ARE NOBODYS BUT VOCAL  ON THE NET THAT IS THE ONLY

REASON I HAVE ADDRESSED TO THE EXTENT I HAVE  you skeptics appear as jealouls small  close narrow minded people  WITH BIG EGO's

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com, vcrepair@juno.com,

              mike@ucsofa.com, halfox@qwest.net

Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:19:45 EDT

Subject: Re: trying to reach a soul in Jack

 

 

Jack,REPLY THERE IS ONE SITUATION YOU HAVE NOT CONSIDERED AND IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE AND THAT IS THIS IS ALL ABOUT NEW TECHNOLOGY SITUATIONS THAT ARE I'M SORRY FAR BEYOND YOUR CURRENT UNDERSTANDING AS THE SAY THE BATTERY OR SAY SOLAR OPERATED WATCH YOU WARE WAS FAR BEYOND UNDERSTANDING 35 YEARS AGO



BEING A CLOSE NARROW MINDED SKEPTIC MAKES YOU A ARROGANT KNOW IT ALL AS TED IS AND DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO LOOK PAST YOUR NOSE AT
ANYTHING THAT IS NOT IN YOU BOOK AND THAT MAY BE A MAJOR BLUNDER ON YOUR END. AND WOULD HAVE BEEN SETTLED LONG AGO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IF YOU OR YOUR WANNA BE CLONE TED IN DETROIT WOULD HAVE CHECKED THE CLAIMS INSTEAD OF POSSIBLY MAKING COMPLETE FOOLS OUT OF YOURSELVES BY RUNNING YOUR MOUTHS ABOUT SITUATIONS YOU DID NOT LOOK AT IN PERSON TO SEE IF THEY WERE REAL OR NOT ALL SKEPTICS DO IS ASSUME. THAT IS A TOTALLY STUPID THING TO DO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT SMART DOG TYPE PEOPLE CHECK BEFORE THE OPEN THEIR MOUTH TRAINED DOG TYPES DO NOT AS YOU AND TED HAVE NOT THE MAIN PROBLEM IF SO IS YOUR NO LONGER A ELECTRICAL EXPERT IF THIS IS FACTUAL AND YOUR A DEGREED ELECTRICAL ENGINEER WOULD NOW HAVE A WOTHLESS EDUCATION IF THIS IS SO.

In a message dated 9/3/02 7:48:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, eric@voicenet.com writes:

I confess, I've been taking your most whacked out rants and posting them on my crackpot list so a greater audience of people can laugh at you. That's not verynice of me. I'm going to try to think of you as another human being, a traveleron our little blue planet. Let me try to connect with you as a person a second.

take another look at this when you haven't been drinking. Jerry has dropped the simple insult repartee and tried to open his heart to you hear. You reallyshould rethink your life here. What has it meant? Where is all this going? Is there a chance you can look backward and see the real reason you spew all this venom towards rationalism? What would you think about the prospect of being in the exact same position of threatening the skeptics . . . . come another 5 years from now? How do the people you care about view you? Do you have a timeline of life's goals in mind? What kind of personal growth are you looking for? Hey, you are not going to be understanding physics equations,
but who cares, - you can probably fix cars better than Jerry, Ted or I. so what!
Face it. you're a big fat old man, your not going to live all that much longer.
Jerry is a rare skeptic with a heart and compassion - he's tried to offer that you should think a bit about life, connect better with family, go for a few spiritual experiences, have a few light hearted pursuits.

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com, vcrepair@juno.com,

              mike@ucsofa.com, halfox@qwest.net

Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:19:45 EDT

 

Jack,REPLY THERE IS ONE SITUATION YOU HAVE NOT CONSIDERED AND IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE AND THAT IS THIS IS ALL ABOUT NEW TECHNOLOGY SITUATIONS THAT ARE I'M SORRY FAR BEYOND YOUR CURRENT UNDERSTANDING AS THE SAY THE BATTERY OR SAY SOLAR OPERATED WATCH YOU WARE WAS FAR BEYOND UNDERSTANDING 35 YEARS AGO



BEING A CLOSE NARROW MINDED SKEPTIC MAKES YOU A ARROGANT KNOW IT ALL AS TED IS AND DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO LOOK PAST YOUR NOSE AT ANYTHING THAT IS NOT IN YOU BOOK AND THAT MAY BE A MAJOR BLUNDER ON YOUR END. AND WOULD HAVE BEEN SETTLED LONG AGO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IF YOU OR YOUR WANNA BE CLONE TED IN DETROIT WOULD HAVE CHECKED THE CLAIMS



INSTEAD OF POSSIBLY MAKING COMPLETE FOOLS OUT OF YOURSELVES BY RUNNING YOUR MOUTHS ABOUT SITUATIONS YOU DID NOT LOOK AT IN PERSON TO SEE IF THEY WERE REAL OR NOT ALL SKEPTICS DO IS ASSUME. THAT IS A TOTALLY STUPID THING TO DO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT SMART DOG TYPE PEOPLE CHECK BEFORE THE OPEN THEIR MOUTH TRAINED DOG TYPES DO NOT AS YOU AND TED HAVE NOT THE MAIN PROBLEM IF SO IS YOUR NO LONGER A ELECTRICAL EXPERT IF THIS IS FACTUAL AND YOUR A DEGREED ELECTRICAL ENGINEER WOULD NOW HAVE A WOTHLESS EDUCATION IF THIS IS SO.

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: Mike@ucsofa.com, eric@voicenet.com

Cc: jerry.williamson@amd.com, vcrepair@juno.com, halfox@qwest.net

Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:46:00 EDT

 

   ACTUALLY I'M A FAT OLD MAN  BUT WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING 

BEING DISCUSSED HERE  IS THE QUESTION  NOTHING THAT I KNOW OF THIS IS ABOUT

NEW ELECTRICAL  TECHNOLOGY ERIC IS CLUELESS ABOUT BUT SHOULD KNOW ABOUT BUT

DOES NOT BECAUSE HE SAID HIMSELF EE's DO NOT KNOW SQUAT ABOUT HOW MOTORS WORK

OR HOW THE WINDINGS ARE INVOLVED IN THE OPERATIONAL PROCESS

 

BECAUSE ALL THEY ARE TAUGHT IS THEORY NOT ACTUAL WORKING ASPECTS OF

OPERATIONAL SITUATIONS  THAT IS THE MAJOR FLAW IN THEIR EDUCATION AND THE

MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF UNDERSTANDING ELECTRICITY THAT THEY ARE TOTALLY

LACKING  I'M A SKEPTIC ALSO BUT THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE I'M OPEN MINDED THE

ERIC TYPES ARE NOT ANOTHER MAJOR BLUNDER THAT I CAN SEE.

 

THAT IS COMPOUNDED BY HIS ARROGANCE THAT IS THE CRUX OF THIS SITUATION NOT

SOME SKEPTIC BEING OPEN HEARTED TO POOR MIS GUIDED JACK  GIVE ME A BREAK YOU

SKEPTICAL CLOWNS IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO JACK YOU HAVE BEEN MISGUIDED AND

WE WILL HELP YOU FIND YOUR WAY 

 

ASS BACKWARDS AS USUAL  IT SHOULD BE WE ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU THE WAY BOYS 

THE NEW SCI. COMMUNITY WILL BE CREATE THE INVENTION FIRST AND THEN GET IT TO

WORK THEN LAST ATTACH THE THEORY NOW IT IS JUST THE OTHER WAY AROUND  ED GRAY

IS IN THE BALL PARK BUT HAS IT BACKWARDS AS DELPHI DID WITH THEIR HYDROGEN

PROPULSION

 

In a message dated 9/4/02 8:24:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, vcrepair@juno.com writes:

"avoirdupoisly endowed, mature gentlemen"? :-)

 

 THAT WAS A CLASS ACT TED AND CUTE

PS. What will Dennis do if Tilley demonstrates their self powered electric DeLorean on Sept 7, months before the December 28thdemonstration of the Sundance generator?

 

 REPLY SORRY TILLEY IS A MOOT POINT BUT HOPE HE SHOVELS IT DOWN THE SPEPTICS THROAT WE WILL TELL YOU IN PERSON WHAT HE IS DOING NOT IN MAIL LETS SEE IF YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT FAT CHANCE THAT WILL HAPPEN IT IS NOT IN YOUR BOOK SKEPTICS THAT YOU CAN SEE BUT IS IF YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM YOU DO NOT KNOW WHERE TO LOOK START WITH GENERAL MOTORS 20 YEARS AGO FOR A CLUE I THINK BRUCE MELAND possibly KNOWS WHAT I'M SPEAKING OF

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com, Mike@ucsofa.com, etimes@teleport.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, dougl@pshift.com

Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:25:20 EDT

 

In a message dated 9/4/02 8:24:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, vcrepair@juno.com writes:

PS. What will Dennis do if Tilley demonstrates their self powered electric DeLorean on Sept 7, months before the December 28th demonstration of the Sundance generator?



HE IS MORE THAN LIKELY USING THE ROTATION OF WHELLS AS A MAJOR ASPECT 99% PROBABILITY AND POSSIBLY A AIR SCOOP FOR A CONCERTRATED AIR DELIVERY SITUATION PLUS HAS A FAIRLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF ELECTRICITY AMPS VOITS AND SUCH PLUS NEWER BATTERIES ARE BETTER THAN 20 YEARS AGO IN REGARD TO HOW THEY REACT TO CHARGING SITUATIONS I CAN BE MORE SPECIFIC AND WILL BEFORE HIS DEMO am i right on doug so far since you will not call

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, Mike@ucsofa.com, vcrepair@juno.com,

              phcap@msn.com, etimes@teleport.com, editor@infinite-energy.com

Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 04:57:38 EDT

 

          HE/ THE NEW CO HERE  IS  PRESENTLY BUILDING THE SYSTEM TO OPERATE

DENNIS'S  SUNDANCE GEN. IT IS MORE ADVANCED THAN THE PUB. PHASE CON. WE NOW

DEMO AND WILL NOT NEED THE GRID AS A SUPPLY AS THE PUBLISHED PHASE CON. RTPC

DOES

 

IT IS  FAR MORE ADVANCED THAN DENNIS EXPECTED   MIKE YOU THOUGHT YOU SAW

SERIOUS TECH. WHEN WE WERE THERE   THAT WAS CHILD'S PLAY COMPARED TO WHAT IS

NEXT THAT WILL BE THE OPERATIONAL SYSTEM THAT WILL PROPEL THE SUNDANCE ON TO

THE WORLD MARKET. ALSO  IF I GET ANY MORE IGNORANT OF WHAT IS GOING ON  SHIT

FROM DENNIS AS I DID IN APR. WHEN I WAS THERE HE WILL  HAVE HELL TO PAY FOR

THAT ATTITUDE  I WILL MAKE SURE OF THAT       GOT IT MIKE       

 

ARE YOU READY MIKE BECAUSE PLAY TIME IS OVER WITH AND UNDERSTAND WE DO NOT

NEED DENNIS OR THAT GEN.  IF NECESSARY BECAUSE OF HIS ATTITUDE  HE CAN BE

PASSED BY  ERIC DENNIS HAS MANY SITUATIONS THAT WE WILL MAKE INTO PRODUCTS  

THE OPERATIONAL ASPECTS OF THE SUNDANCE WILL  BE YOUR EE INFLUENCE  END  ONCE

AND FOR ALL AS I HAVE PLANNED IT TO BE

 

IF TED WOULD CHECK  AND TEST THE RTPC THAT WOULD ALSO TOTALLY RENDER  YOUR

BASE OF KNOWLEDGE OBSOLETE  HE CAN COME SUN NIGHT ABOUT 8 PM.  WE ARE BOTH

BUSY UNTIL THEN HE HAD NOTICE EARLY IN THE WEEK  TILLEY DOES NOT HAVE THE

SYSTEM THAT WILL BE USED FOR ELECT. AUTOS BECAUSE OF THE BATTERY ASPECT 

 

UNLESS HE HAS SOMETHING FAR MORE ADVANCED THAT WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT AND I DO

NOT THINK THAT IS THE CASE  BECAUSE OF THEIR FIRST MAIL TO ME  AND THEY ARE

REAL ARROGANT ALSO  IN MAILS AFTER THAT  SO I DO NOT MIND RAINING ON THEIR

PARADE AT ALL  YOU CAN SEND THIS TO THEM ALSO ERIC OR MIKE

CKTILLEY@BELLSOUTH.NET PLEASE DO 

 

ERIC W. WILL EXPLAIN OVER THE PHONE AT ONE PM  FRI. WHAT THEY ARE DOING  OR

HOW IT IS POSSIBLE  AS THEY ARE DOING IT IF YOU WISH  YOU NEED TO CALL ME AT

NOON SO THAT CAN HAPPEN  810 618 9234 PLEASE RECORD IT SO YOU DO NOT SCREW IT

UP IN TRANSLATION AS YOU USUALLY DO BECAUSE OF YOUR EE  CLOSE NARROW MINDED 

THINKING

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, Mike@ucsofa.com, vcrepair@juno.com,

              phcap@msn.com, etimes@teleport.com, editor@infinite-energy.com

Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:13:22 EDT

 

In a message dated 9/6/02 6:47:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, eric@voicenet.com writes:

When will you have something that will not need the grid? Once something like that would be available, we wouldn't have to try to make you understand how to measure power - it wouldn't
matter. Before then, I don't want to do anymore arguing about what skeptics would expect to evaluate power levels.


REPLY DOUBLE TALK AS USUAL TO AVOID CHECKING THE RTPC THAT I PREDICT BLOWS YOUR KNOWLEDGE TOTALLY OUT OF THE WATER SO TO SPEAK

According to Dennis's shows, he already had in 2001 what he needed to make gridless power. Remember, he only needed to put his peanut butter and jelly sandwich together. Investors thought the only technical hurdle was connecting two device through a shaft. Are you saying he lied to those thousands of people in all 50 states and didn't really have something that could work?


REPLY NO HE DID NOT LIE LISTEN ROME WAS NOT BUILD IN A DAY BUT IS NEARING COMPLETION TED WOULD HAVE TO BE HERE AT 5 SUN . BECAUSE I'M BUSY SUN. NIGHT I WANT HIM ON TAPE SO I CAN GET RID OF YOU SKEPTIC CLOWNS HE GETS A COPY ALSO SO THERE IS NO QUESTION ANYMORE FROM YOU CLOWNS

IS HE COMMING OR NOT ?? OR IS HIS BIKE BROKE AGAIN OR WILL THE CARS WHIZ BY HIM TO FAST ON THE E WAY AS HE SAID BEFORE ON THE PHONE HE SOUNDS LIKE A REAL BOX OF ROCKS BECAUSE OF THAT STATEMENT

Jack, what you just don't understand about Dennis, is he takes in millions WITH OUT NEEDING ANYTHING TO WORK. Dennis doesn't need you.


REPLY WE DO NOT NEED HIM EITHER A GLARING POINT YOUR MISSING HIS OWN DAUGHTER SLIPPED AND STATED TO US WE WERE THERE TO SAVE THE CO. WE KNEW THAT BEFORE WE WANT THERE FOR WEEK LAST YEAR


He brought in big money during his 1999 tour with the CRD machine - it was just a motor and a bunch of gears. It was one of the most pathetic under-unity systems ever shown - but it was all he needed to glean money from the ignorant. Dennis has blown off Yule Brown, Victor Fisher, Jim Murry and Paul Pantone. He doesn't need an arrogant obnoxious person like you - especially since you talk to me. You may think he'd fold with out real free energy in Dec, but "you underestimate the power of the dark side"

REPLY DARK SIDE THIS ERIC THEY HAVE ALL READY BEEN HERE AND SAW THEY WERE SCREWED THIS TIME IT WAS THE RELIANCE CORP. FROM HOUSTON THEY ARE AN ENRON CLONE AND HAVE A LARGE SKY SCRAPER IN HOUSTON DOWN THE STREET SO TO SPEAK FROM ENRON



From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com

Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 02:34:45 EDT

Subject: Re: Chance to test RTPC?

 

In a message dated 9/6/02 5:55:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, vcrepair@juno.com writes:


Ted Gondert
Sorry Jack, I just don't think it's worth the bother to test the RTPC for you. My friends advise against me going to see you.

We have already tried to explain to you what the possible measurement errors are.


REPLY THAT IS DETERMIND AT TESTING IF THERE ARE NOT BEFORE TESTING AS YOUR TRYING TO DO HELLO TED ARE YOU THERE ?? MAYBE THERE IS NO ERRORS AFTER ALL A NAT. PUB DID TEST TED THEY ARE ON TAPE SAYING IT IS AS CLAIMED

You can NOT offer proof of your claims by powering the RTPC and the 3 HP and 1 HP motors and 100 amp arc welder all running under load at same time with only 110 VAC 10 amps or 1 kilowatt.


REPLY TESTING TED IS THE WAY TO SOLVE THE ISSUE IS IT NOT. ??


You can't even change a fuse, have NO concept of how to measure power,  RTPC can NOT power itself,

 

REPLY I JUST PRESENT W DOES TESTING


REPLY NOT AN ISSUE TED

Yet you expect us to believe what you say about electricity?


REPLY I EXPECTY YOU TO TEST TED

We already read about your "permanent magnets doing work" from Warrem Oppenheim, he said it was just a couple magnetsflipping over in your hand. Something cool for third graders, maybe.


REPLY THAT WAS THE NEW MATERIAL THE DEMO WAS DIFFERENT

Now you say you can explain another "Free Energy" claim, by Tilley but have NOT examined the device or waited for it to be demonstrated.Sunday, September 8 the demonstration of the electric Tilley DeLorean car will be over.


REPLY CAN EXPL;AIN BEFORE BUT NOT IN MAIL WELL W CAN TO BE EXACT


So just wait until then. Do you have an electric car

REPLY NOT AN ISSUE TED

that runs without needing the batteries charged? If not then why do you think you can explain Tilley's device?

REPLY CALL AND FIND OUT

Why can't Wayne write out some of these theories or thesis explaining it all? Joseph Newman's Energy Machine, Lutec Generator, Bedinni Generator, Tom Beardon's "Motionless Electromagnetic Generator, Tilley device that charges batteries, etc So far all we have seen is Jack's writing incoherently about technical subjects.


REPLY WE ONLY SHOW DEMOS THAT IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED TED THE TECH. INFO WILL NEVER BE GIVEN OUT PERIOD FIGURE IT OUT FOR YOURSELF TED YOU THINK YOUR SO SMART HOW ABOUT YOU ERIC ?? YOUR AN EE YOUR SUPPOSED TO KNOW HOW ELECTRICITY WORKS BUT STATED IN MAIL YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND MOTORS IT APPEARS YOUR EDU. WAS VERY INADEQUATE TO ME ERIC AND TED TIREDOF YOUR MAILS TED AND WILL NOT REPLY TO ANYMORE PERIOD OR ERIC EITHER BY GUYS IT HAS BEEN FUN I DI NOT HAVE ANY TIME FOR YOU ANYMORE
_________________________________________

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: peckfamily@mail.tds.net, vcrepair@juno.com, superior@blclinks.net,

              jerry.williamson@amd.com, ghawk@eskimo.com,

              dhowe17@hotmail.com

Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 16:42:42 EDT

Subject: Re: Special Edition ABOUT TILLEY FROM JACK ADDED

 

Subj: YOU MAY NOT BE TO HAPPY WHEN YOU READ THIS SORRY FROM CONFIDENTIAL TECHNOLOGIES
Date: 9/8/02 10:40:53 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: JCarey962 <mailto:JCarey9622>
To: info@mnglobal.com <mailto:info@mnglobal.com>

FOR YOU SIR AND seperately THE IDIOT SKEPTICS TO CHEW ON AND MAKE SNIDE COMMENTS ABOUT THE CONTENT vcrepair is 50 mi from here and has SENT enough mails ABOUT HOW IT HAS BEEN ELECRTRICALLY FOR 100 YEARS in the last 10 months to be here 8 times to check he is an ERIC SUCK UP clone wanna be

HE WAS AT THE DENNIS SHOW HERE LAST AUG. 11 WHEN OUR TECH. DEV SHOWED AND DEMOED THE RTPC IN PUBLIC FOR THE FIRST TIME VCREPAIR DECLINED TO CKECK WHEN HE SAW IT AT THE SHOW AND HE HAD METERS WITH HIM BUT I DID NOT MEET HIM AS I DID SUPERIOR@BLCLINKS.NET WHO HAS SOLD SOME UNITS FOR US AND LIVES IN SAGINAW AND IS IN THE USED MACHINE BUSINESS

VCREPAIR DOES NOT LISTEN WHEN TOLD ALL WE DO IS DEMO NOT DISCUSS TECH. INFO BECAUSE WE DEMO WE DO NOT HAVE TO AND IF HE CANNOT PROVE FALSE HE AN THE ERIC'S ARE TOTALLY SCREWED BECAUSE THEIR BASE OF ELECTRICAL KNOWLEDGE IS GONE

WE HAVE 390 MILLION IN SIGNED INTENT TO DO BUS. LETTERS FROM ACROSS THE PLANET AND NEED 500 MILLION TO LAUNCH WE HAVE TURNED DOWN 20 BILLION SO FAR BECAUSE THEY WANTED CONTROL AND I CARE LESS IF ANYONE BELIEVES THAT OR NOT NO JOKE KEITH IN SAGINAW


I LOOKED AT THE SITE AND SAW IT WAS TILLEYS HOME UNIT THIS MAIL REFERS TO HIS CAR SITUATION HE IS STILL USING BATTERIES AND WILL NOT CALL US AND FIND OUT HE IS STILL LIGHT YEARS BEHIND US SORRY SHIT HAPPENS YOU CAN CALL IF YOU WISH 810 618 9234 I/WE DO CARE EITHER WAY

PAUL IF THIS IS YOU BECAUSE I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE SITE BUT WILL AFTER SENDING THIS I WOULD POSSIBLY LOOK AT USING OUR TRADEMARK SITUATION AND FORGET PATENTS OR IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH A TRADEMARK THAT ADVANCES THE ONE USED TO SET UP RCA THAT WE WILL BE USING THEN CREATE YOUR OWN SITUATION ALSO CLAIMING 300% EFF. IS A MISNOMER AND NOT WISE BECAUSE THE IN THE BOX SCI. COMMUNITY WILL SCREAM OU LIKE BABY'S

BECAUSE SOMEONE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE MATH SHOULD BE APPLIED THE RTPC IS 900% BUT IT IS REALLY 99% IT HAS NEW MATH TO EXPLAIN IT WHICH IS ""ELECTRON FLOW WITHOUT CREATING AN EMF"" NO ONE ON THIS PLANET HAS A CLUE THAT I KNOW HOW TO FIGURE THAT OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT WIRED TO DO SO BECAUSE OF THE BACKWARD TAUGHT THEORY BASED EDU. SYSTEM PLUS IF YOUR LOOKING AT MAN. IT I WOULD TALK TO US FIRST BEFORE YOU DO I THINK YOU TRUST MY JUDGMENT BY NOW TO SOME EXTENT

I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE SITUATION DESCRIBED HAVE A LOT OF MONEY DUMPED INTO IT AND THEN HAVE TO TAKE A SERIOUS HIT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING YOU HELPED US A GREAT DEAL AND CALL ME BROTHER SO THIS REPLY IS BEING SENT IN THAT CONTEXT AS A TRUE BROTHER SHOULD DO IF HE CARES

OUR NEW SITUATIONS ARE FAR MORE ADVANCED THAN THE PUBLISHED RTPC WHICH IS EVOLUTIONARY AND WORLD CHANGING UNDERSTAND I HAVE TO FORWARD THE SITUATION BEING PRESENTED FOR REVIEW I CAN COMMENT ON OUR SITUATIONS BUT NOT THE ONE CONTAINED HERE IN ANY TECH. SENSE

WHAT I SHOWED BRUCE MELAND ON TAPE IN JUNE IN BEND OR. OR HAL FOX BEFORE THAT IN SLC THE LAST OF MAY IS NOW BASICALLY OBSOLETE ALSO AND WAS ADVANCED OVER WHAT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED BUT NEW OR OLD PLEASE REMEMBER IS STILL MINOR COMPARED TO WHAT THE DOW CORNING CORP. WAS SHOWED OPERATIONAL 12 YEARS AGO THAT WAS ON A STAR TREK LEVEL OF PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY ALSO WHAT TILLEY IS DOING IS NOT THAT DIFFICULT GM COULD DO IT 20 YEARS AGO BUT WILL NOT BECAUSE THERE IN BED WITH BIG POWER AND OIL ANY FOOL SHOULD KNOW THAT

THERE PUSHING FOR HYDROGEN FILLING STATIONS GET IT YOU STILL HAVE TO FILL UP IT IS ALL ABOUT BIG CORP. CONTROL THAT IS THE GAME MOST DO NOT SEE ONE OF OUR MANY SITUATIONS IS A COMBINATION PROPULSION SITUATION THAT INVOLVES A NEW HYDROGEN SITUATION AND NO FILLING STATIONS WILL BE REQUIRED AND START OUT AS A RETROFIT SITUATION BECAUSE WHAT DOW SAW OPERATIONAL HAS TO BE REFINED BECAUSE IT IS DANGEROUS TO HUMANS IN IT PRESENT FORM BUT CAN BE RESTARTED FOR 30,000 FOR CONTROLLED DEMO SITUATIONS ONLY

IT IS AT LEAST 3 YEARS AND 20 MILLION AWAY BEFORE IT CAN BECOME A PRODUCT BUT IS NOT SLATED TO BE INTRODUCED UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF THE NEXT DECADE AND WOULD NOT BECOME THE DOMINATE POWER CONVERSION AND PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY SITUATION ON THE PLANET UNTIL ABOUT 2035 REPLACING OUR CURRENT PLANED SITUATIONS AND THEN BE TOTALLY REPLACED BY 2070 SEVERAL CENTURY'S OF PLANNED TECHNOLOGIES ARE IN PLACE CURRENTLY. BY SAYING WHAT I HAVE SAID MOST WILL THINK I NEED TO LOCKED UP IN A RUBBER ROOM THEY MAY BE CORRECT IN THAT ASSUMPTION I GUESS IN TIME WE WILL SEE WON'T WE

GM IS ALSO ADDING 1000 ENGINEERS TO WORK ON ALTERNATIVE PROJECTS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE SHOWED THEM LAST FALL WE ALSO INSTRUCTED THEM HOW TO MAKE THEIR OBSOLETE HYDROGEN PROPULSION WORK FOR FREE SO THEY WOULD SPEND MONEY ON IT AND GET THE PUBLIC READY FOR OUR SITUATIONS WHICH IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING NOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CHOICE UNLESS THEY WANT TO TAKE THEIR LUMPS AND DEAL WITH US BUT I DO NOT THINK THEIR GIANT EGO's WILL ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT

THEY ARE IN A CATCH 22 SITUATION BECAUSE OF THEIR EGO's BUT COULD GET THEMSELVES OUT OF IT BY DEALING WITH US WHICH THEY WILL HAVE TO DO IN TIME BECAUSE IT WILL MEAN THEIR SURVIVABLE BUT THEY DO NOT SEE THAT NOW NOR DOES FORD OR TOYOTA BUT WILL IN TIME BECAUSE THEY WILL BE FORCE TO BUT I DO NOT SEE THAT HAPPENING NOW

PLUS BY THEN WE WILL BE IN A POSITION TO BUILD OUR OWN AUTO'S IF THEY FORCE US TO BELIEVE ME WE DO NOT WANT TO BECAUSE IT IS A REAL PAIN IN THE AS- BUT WILL IF FORCED TO AND THEY WILL BE A MOOT POINT THEN

THEY GM ARE VERY PREDICTABLE AS THE REST ARE BUT FORD MAY SURPRISE ME BECAUSE OF THERE NEW LEADER WHO HAS THE RIGHT IDEA AS HENRY THE FIRST DID BUT I'M NOT HOLDING MY BREATH THAT WILL HAPPEN THEY ARE ALL PREDICTABLE BECAUSE FOR ONE THING THEIR COUNTER PRODUCTIVE NOT INVENTED HERE SYNDROME OR IF THEY CANNOT OWN AS IN THIS CASE THEY WILL STAY IN THEIR LINEAR BOXES THEY ARE IN NOW THAT WILL PROBABLY 95% BE THEIR COFFINS BECAUSE OF THEIR COUNTER PRODUCTIVE EGO'S WILL BE THEIR DEATH NAIL

BELIEVE ME PLEASE PAUL THE AUTO COMPANIES HATE ME BECAUSE THEY AMONG OTHERS WHO I HAVE MADE FOOLS OF HAVE FILED 28 COMPLAINTS WITH THE STATE OF MICH. AGAINST ME FOR STEALING THEIR IDENTITY'S NO JOKE IT SEEMS I WENT TO FAR WHEN I QUESTIONED THEIR GIANT EGO'S I GUESS THEY CANNOT TAKE A JOKE AND HAVE VERY THIN SKINS THE FUNNY PART IS I'M A NOBODY FROM NOWHERE BUT THE POWER OF THE PEN AND THE NET IS MIND BOGGLING TO SAY THE LEAST

WHEN I PEDDLED DELPHI'S CHIEF SCIENTIST'S E MAIL TO ME SAYING HE DID NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING WE HAD SHOWED HIM ACROSS THE PLANET TO GAIN US CREDITABILITY AND IT WORKED THAT IS WHEN THE SHIT SO TO SPEAK STARTED TO HIT THE FAN AND THE COMPLAINTS STARTED I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY EXPOSED THEMSELVES TO THAT EXTENT TO FILE COMPLAINTS THAT WAS STUPID ON THEIR PART BUT THEIR EGO'S CAUSED THEM TO MAKE THAT BLUNDER AND THEN I USED THAT BLUNDER AGAINST THEM TO MAKE EVEN BIGGER FOOLS OUT OF THEM AS I'M DOING NOW

THEY SHOULD HAVE KEPT THEIR MOUTHS SHUT I WOULD HAVE IF I WAS THEM THEY DID NOT THINK PAST THEIR NOSE AS USUAL WHAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN BY DOING THAT BECAUSE ACTIONS CAUSE REACTIONS AND I'M NOT AN OFFICER OF THE CO. FOR THAT REASON SO THEY CANNOT SUE WE THOUGHT AHEAD THEY DID NOT EVEN THOUGH I BASICALLY CREATED THE BASES FOR CO. TO GO WITH THE TECHNOLOGY

GM DID BUY NOW WORTHLESS FUEL CELL TECHNOLOGY FROM A SITUATION IN CALIF. BEFORE THEY SAW WHAT WE SHOWED THEM LAST FALL I KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE PISSED ABOUT THAT NOW WHEN THEY DID THAT I CONTACTED THE CO.. AND TOLD THEM SELL EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO IGNORANT GM BEFORE IT BECAME OBSOLETE I DO NOT KNOW IT THEY LISTENED OR NOT I DID NOT FOLLOW IT UP AND THEY DID NOT CONTACT ME MOST SITUATIONS DID NOT TAKE ME AS SERIOUS THEN BUT THAT HAS CHANGED BIG TIME

NOW IF TILLEY CAN DO IT WITHOUT BATTERIES THEN HE HAS OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE THAT IS THE LEVEL OUR TECHNOLOGY GUY IS ON I TRIED TO TALK TO TILLEY BUT HE IS REAL ARROGANT IN MAIL AND APPEARS TO KNOW IT ALL NO ONE DOES INCLUDING US AND IF THEY THINK THEY DO THERE ONLY FOOLING THEMSELVES

NOW PAUL YOU SHOULD SEE WHY BIG CORP. WOULD LIKE TO HANG ME IN THE TOWN SQUARE AND WOULD IF THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT THEY ARE WHAT I CALL REAL FUN AND I ENJOY TO NO END PLAYING WITH THEM ANY WAY I CAN SO I CAN KEEP FROM BECOMING BORED PLEASE ALWAYS REMEMBER PAUL I DO WHAT I DO FOR A REASON AND THAT IS SO WE CAN POSSIBLY EVOLVE AS A CIVILIZATION NO ARROGANCE IS INTENDED IF IT IS PERCEIVED BECAUSE THAT TYPE OF AN ATTITUDE IS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE AND SOLVES ZERO PROBLEMS FROM YOUR BROTHER THE IDIOT
-----------------

THIS WAS A SEPERATE MAIL ABOUT TILLEY FOR YOUR REVIEW SIR AND WOULD YOU SPREAD THIS ENTIRE SITUATION ANYWHERE YOU CAN IF YOU AGREE WITH IT IF NOT LET ME WHY YOU
DO NOT SO IT CAN BE DISCUSSED I'M TRYING TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT ABOUT VARIOUS SITUATIONS SO IT IS PLAIN TO UNDERSTAND FOR PEOPLE AND PLEASE ADD COMMENT IF YOU WISH BUT MAKE ME AWARE OF IT BEFORE YOU SEND IT OUT TO OTHERS SO I CAN MAKE SURE IT IS FACTUAL AS I KNOW IT

SO THERE IS NO CONFUSION OR MIS LEADING STATEMENTS WHEN PEOPLE REVIEW IT BECAUSE I THINK IT PUTS A LOT OF SITUATIONS IN PRESPECTIVE WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ?? I CARE LESS WHAT THE IGNORANT SKEPTICS SAY THEY HAVE BECAME REAL BORING BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT CHECK JUST TALK IS ALL THEY DO FROM BEHIND THEIR COMPUTERS AS THEY PROBABLY DID FROM BEHIND THEIR MOTHERS DRESSES WHEN THEY WERE KIDS SUCKING THEIR THUMBS WHERE IS WAS SAFE AND THEY DO NOT HAVE TO FACE ANYONE BECAUSE OF THEIR ACTIONS IN MAILS


>>>>>>>> I'M HOPING PLEASE LET IT BE TRUE PLUS TAKE ALL THE HEAT THAT IS COMING AND RENDER THE CURRENT THEORY BASED SCI. COMMUNITY USELESS AND PAVED THE WAY FOR OUR NEW EVOLUTIONARY SITUATIONS THAT ARE FAR MORE ADVANCED THAN HIS AND THE SHOCK FACTOR WILL HAVE WORN OFF and we WILL get about zero BS THAT WAY

PLUS BECAUSE OF HIS ARROGANCE WE WILL NOT FEEL BAD WHEN WE RENDER HIS SITUATIONS OBSOLETE THIS COULD HAVE NOT WORKED OUT BETTER SO FAR I'M SORRY ABOUT YOUR WASTED EFFORT MR. TILLEY BUT SOMEONE HAS TO BE THE SACRIFICIAL LAMB SO TO SPEAK BETTER YOU THAN US

YOUR TIMING IS ABSOLUTELY PREFECT SIR I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU FIND SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT KNOW ABOUT US AND PEDDLE IT AS FAST AS YOU CAN AND TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN BUT YOU DO AS YOU WISH IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO US WHAT YOU DO MAY I PLEASE SUGGEST BIG POWER AND OIL HAVE ALL THE MONEY AND WOULD PROBABLY REALLY PONY UP A FAT SUM TO KEEP IT OFF THE MARKET

THANK YOU MR. TILLEY SIR FOR MAKING MY/OUR DAY I WOULD HAVE WAITED TO TELL THE WORLD BUT YOUR ARROGANT REPLY WAS NOT VERY SMART ON YOUR PART NOW YOU SHOULD SEE HOW ARROGANCE CAN SCREW YOU AS IT ALWAYS DOES WHEN DISPLAYED PUCKER UP MR. TILLEY DADDY IS HOME AS MY SON SAYS I LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER PRAISE SOMEONE AND PASS THE AMMO THIS IS GOING TO BE REAL FUN

DISCLAIMER I'M A METAL CASE AND A SELF PROCLAIMED IDIOT PLEASE DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO ME IN ANY WAY


From: <vcrepair@juno.com>

To: <JCarey9622@aol.com>

Cc: <peckfamily@mail.tds.net>; <superior@blclinks.net>;

<jerry.williamson@amd.com>; <eric@voicenet.com>

Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:21 PM

Subject: Re: Special Edition ABOUT TILLEY FROM JACK ADDED, Jack ranting.

 

 

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 16:42:42 EDT JCarey9622@aol.com writes:

Subj: YOU MAY NOT BE TO HAPPY WHEN YOU READ THIS SORRY FROM CONFIDENTIAL

TECHNOLOGIES

Date: 9/8/02 10:40:53 AM Eastern Standard Time

From: JCarey9622

To: info@mnglobal.com

 

FOR  YOU SIR AND   seperately THE IDIOT SKEPTICS TO CHEW ON AND MAKE

SNIDE COMMENTS ABOUT THE CONTENT vcrepair is 50 mi from here and

******************* **************** ****************** **********8

Ted Gondert:

So ranting Jack Carey rides again. Do you really expect anyone to believe you Jack? Since you have NOT made rational description of what to test on the RTPC and seem to threaten me, that is why I haven't tested it. Find someone else to test it. You claim all these big multi million dollar business deals are set so why are you wasting our time with your ranting?  Just let us know when the working models are available.

 

It seems all the crackpots make grandiose claims and say they have financial backing, etc. But never offer proof of  one working prototype.

 

Tilley doesn't care what you have to say, you have no technical knowledge anyway Jack.

 

The letter that scientist from Delphi sent, read more like he didn't understand what type of idiotic "technology" you where trying to promote. Just told you to try someone else. I'm sure he was

capable of understanding electrical theory explained rationally, but not idiotic ranting that Jack Carey does, nobody can understand that. ;-)

 

Unfortunately the Tilley demonstration of the electric DeLorean didn't go well. The wheel bearing failed after a dozen laps. Hey Jack, maybe you could offer your Saleen Cobra Mustang for them to convert to electric power instead of that 1981 DeLorean.

 

But they don't ignore threats you have made against many people. Even if you have disclaimer that you are crazy. That is why those companies filed complaints against you. Guess they will now forward some of your rantings to the police to add to your case file when they get Personal Protection Orders against you.

Don't be surprised if the police show up some day to arrest you when you start making more threats.

 

PS. Keith, can you find anyone who can actually test those Rotary Transformer Phase Converters that you sell to people to run three phase motors from single phase power? It would be good to read actual test results from some electrician who has measured it.

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, superior@blclinks.net

Cc: vcrepair@juno.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com

Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 02:40:38 EDT

 

REAL SIMPLE BOYS 12/2 20 AMP RATED HOUSE WIRE IS FEEDING A SITUATION THAT

ENABLES 15 HP OF 3 PHASE TO OPERATE UNDER LOAD  WITH A 9 AMP DRAW FACTOR 

FROM THE FEED THAT IS TOYALLY BEYOND YOUR UNDERSTANDING PERIOD AND BY DOING

THAT YOUR BASE OF KNOWLEDGE IS TOTALLY OBSOLETE  ISN'T IT ??

 

YOU ARE CLUELESS HOW TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT CAN BE POSSIBLE ERIC. AND SO ARE TED

AND JERRY  KEEP IT SIMPLE BOYS  AND A NAT. PUB MEASURED IT AND ARE ON TAPE

THAT SITUATION WILL WASH AWAY YOUR PARADES BYE BOYS COLOR YOURSELFS GONE FROM

ANY TYPE OF  INFLUENCE SITUATIONS

 

ERIC YOUR FOLLOWING  OF CLONES WILL BE NO MORE AND YOUR CO. WILL NOT NEED YOU

IF YOU CANNOT EXPLAIN TO THEM HOW IT FUNCTIONS BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR JOB TO

KNOW ABOUT ELECTRICAL SITUATIONS  CORRECT ERIC ?????????????????? ALL THE

TESTING THIS AND THAT SITUATIONS YOU RUN TOUR MOUTH ABOUT ERIC  ARE

IMMATERIAL 

 

       COMMENT KEITH   IF YOU TELL THEM THEY ARE SCREWED THAT SHOULD BE

ENOUGH   WHAT EVER YOU SAY KEEP IT SIMPLE PLEASE  KEITH YOU KNOW FROM FIRST

HAND KNOWLEDGE I HAVE THE FE NO CHECKING  SKEPTICAL ELECTRICAL CLOWNS BETWEEN

A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE  SO TELL THEM THAT AND I KNOW OF NO WAY THEY CAN GET

AROUND ME DO YOU KEITH ????????

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 02:51:07 EDT

 

<PRE>YOU SAW A WORKING MODEL TED        KEITH WAS AT THE SAME SHOW AS I SAID WE

HAVE 390 MILLION IN AGREEMENTS WE NEED 500 TO LAUNCH  YOU DO NOT SEEM TO GET

IT TED  AND ARE TO DENSE TO WE DO NOT HAVE TO  TALK TECH.  SITUATIONS  IF WE

SHOW DEMOS  YOU KNOW THAT YOUR JUST TRYING TO PLAY A GAME  PLEASE YOUR NOT

VERY GOOD AT IT AND NEITHER IS ERIC OR JERRY COMMENT KEITH

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 02:58:35 EDT

 

TEST RUSULTS ARE NOT IMPORTANT IF IT FUNCTIONS AS ADVERTISED TED  AND CARL

DID UNDERSTAND HIS THEORY HE WAS TAUGHT BUT NOT THESE NEW SITUATIONS AT ALL 

TED ARE YOU TIRED YET  OF PUTTING YOUR  FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH EVERY TIME YOU

OPEN IT   WHEN I REPLY AND MAKE YOU APPEAR AS A FOOL   COMMENT KEITH

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 03:18:45 EDT

 

        KEITH IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO BRING ANY ELECTRICAN HE WISHES AND AS

MANY AS HE WISHES AND THEY  CAN TEST ALL THEY WISH  AND WILL BE ON TAPE ALSO 

BUT WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED TO SAY IT WORKS AS ADVERTISED OR IT DOES NOT 

 

NO RESULTS OTHER THAN WHAT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED WILL BE PUBLISHED ANYMORE  

SCREW THE SKEPTICS THEY WILL NOT CHECK THEMSELVES   NOW I HAVE HAD MY FILL OF

THEM  THEY  ARE NEVER GOING TO GET ANY MORE INFO PERIOD  WE HAVE STATED DRAW

AND PRODUCTION FACTORS  THAT IS ALL THERE WILL BE FROM NOW ON BECAUSE IT CAN

BE BACKED UP  BY A DEMO  WHICH IS ALL THAT IS NECESSARY

 

From: vcrepair@juno.com

To: JCarey9622@aol.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com,superior@blclinks.net,jerry.williamson@amd.com

Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:54:46 -0400

 

On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 03:18:45 EDT JCarey9622@aol.com writes:

>         KEITH IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO BRING ANY ELECTRICIAN HE WISHES  AND AS

> MANY AS HE WISHES AND THEY  CAN TEST ALL THEY WISH  AND WILL BE ON  TAPE ALSO 

> BUT WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED TO SAY IT WORKS AS ADVERTISED OR IT DOES  NOT 

********************  ******************** ******************* ******

Congratulations Jack! You now have over 600 emails and have broken the 03:00 to 04:00

EDT hour barrier. So now you have sent emails at every hour of the day. :-)

You sent 4 emails between 02:40 and 03:18, that might be another record.

 

Out of those 600 emails, maybe half a dozen make any sense though. ;-)

 

It will be good to read some test results from independent electrician. But Keith doesn't have to test your RTPC, just any of his customers. As for testing Wayne's RTPC you claim only 3 HP and 1 HP motors, not 15 HP run from that RTPC using 110 VAC 9 amp (1KW). The claim about the arc welder set for 100 amps under load is the

simplest to verify. The specifications for Lincoln 225/125 amp AC/DC arc welder are 230 VAC and 50 amp input for full power 225 amp output, 25 arc volts 70 volts open. For 100 amp output the input current would be  22 amperes.

So the RTPC can step up 110 VAC to 220 VAC AND DOUBLE the amperage!

We have NEVER seen a transformer that can do that. Most transformers can only supply the same amount of power out as input, minus some loss. Means a transformer changes 110 VAC 9 amp input to 220 VAC 4.5 amp out.

But the RTPC supplies 4 times the power out as input if your claim is true. :-)

That should be easy to verify, just measure the input voltage and current then the output voltage and current.

 

If the electrician works on industrial three phase power equipment, they would be well aware of power factor, harmonics, true RMS meters, watt meters, etc. Note Volts X Amps is not necessarily true watts. 

If they only do home electric wiring, might not see those conditions.

 

Watt hour meters are interesting, you can time how fast the disk turns to estimate the power draw. KWhr meters have a potential coil and current coil so they read what the true power is rather than just volt-amperes, if there is a phase difference. I looked on Ebay the other day for "watt meters", many hits on RF watt meters for radio transmitters

and some AC power watt meters also. Some company had a lot of KWhr meters surplus from power company in Canada. They even had meters with watt indicator needle. Meters where less than $50.

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, superior@blclinks.net, jerry.williamson@amd.com,

              ghawk@eskimo.com, etimes@teleport.com, halfox@qwest.net,

              dhowe17@hotmail.com, editor@infinite-energy.com,

              tcrampto@mcc.edu, mike@ucsofa.com, vman@skylink.net,

              wizzard9@earthlink.net

Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:35:34 EDT

Subject: Re: Congratulations Jack!  THANK YOU TED IN DETROIT

 

   TED FOR THE 1000 TH  TIME       YOU HAVE IT ALL INCORRECT THE KEY  THAT

YOU KEEP MISSING  OVER AND OVER AND PROBABLY WILL NEVER GRASP IS  THAT 

contained in THE DELIVERY ASPECT OF A/C  CURRENT     IS     """""CURRENTLY

UNUSED FREQUENCY SITUATIONS CALLED WASTED KINETIC ENERGY"""""" 

 

THOSE EXOTIC SITUATIONS  ARE NOT CURRENTLY BEING USED IN OPERATIONAL

SITUATIONS ON THIS PLANET THAT WE KNOW OF    YOU HAVE ALL READY SAW A PUBLIC 

DEMO OF THAT SITUATION  AUG 11 2001 IN FLINT MI. AT A LOCAL HOTEL    PLUS THE

SITUATIONS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED AS FAR AS DRAW AND RESULT FACTORS WHICH IS ALL

WE GIVE OUT BECAUSE DEMOS CAN BE PROVIDED              HELLO ARE YOU THERE?

 

WE USE THEM IS ALL THAT IS GOING ON INSTEAD OF THE  AMPS TO ANY EXTENT  AND

BY DOING SO CAN ELIMINATE THE MAJORITY OF THE HEAT FACTORS THAT ARE

ASSOCIATED WITH AMPS  THAT IF USED  INSTEAD OF THE FREQUENCY ASPECT CREATES

LOSS SITUATIONS 

 

   IN SUMMERY WE ARE ELIMINATING THE LOSS ASPECT THAT YOU APPEAR TO  HAVE

BASICALLY ZERO UNDERSTANDING OF THE TECH. DYNAMICS ASSOCIATED WITH TECHNOLOGY

ON THAT LEVEL    HELLO   NOW THERE IS BASICALLY NO LOSS   IS THAT SIMPLE

ENOUGH FOR YOU OR IS IT TO SIMPLE FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU

APPARENTLY HAVE NO CONCEPTION OF WHAT SIMPLE MEANS AND NEITHER DOES ERIC

KREIG

 

   WHAT IS DEMOED IS EFF. NOT OU AS YOU ARE INDICATING THE SAME  CONCEPT AS

GETTING 40 MI. PER GAL OF GAS INSTEAD OF SAY 20 MI PER GAL   YOUR STILL ONLY

USING ONE GAL. BUT YOUR GOING TWICE AS FAR AS BEFORE WITH THAT GAL.  UNTIL

YOUR ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT CONCEPT YOUR JUST SPINNING YOUR WHEELS SO TO

SPEAK

 

THAT  APPEARS TO BE THE SITUATION IN THIS CASE FROM MY VANTAGE POINT WHICH

APPEARS TO BE FAR DIFFERENT THAN YOURS         COMMENT KEITH  OR BRUCE MELAND

BECAUSE YOU HAVE BOTH BEEN HERE IF YOU WISH  PLEASE   IT IS TIME TO BURY

THESE CLOWNS THEY JUST KEEP BORING ME  TO NO END

 

PLUS  THEY WILL NOT CHECK IN PERSON AS YOU TWO  DID AND I HAVE TIRED OF

PLAYING WITH  THEM AND THEIR TOTALLY THEORY BASED  IN THE LINEAR BOX 

BACKWARD  AND NOW OBSOLETE THINKING. THEY JUST DO NOT WISH TO EVOLVE.

 

THE PRIME BEHIND THE CURTAIN  ISSUE IS  WITH TECH. ONLY TYPES   IS IF THEY

CHECKED AND IS AS ADVERTISED THEY HAVE NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT ANYMORE IF THEY

DO NOT UNDERSTAND OR CANNOT EXPLAIN THE OPERATIONAL DYNAMICS  OF THE  NEW

EVOLUTIONARY PHASE CONVERTER TECHNOLOGY

 

. IF THEY DO NOT CHECK THEY CAN KEEP RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS IT IS THAT SIMPLE  

BUS. TYPES DO NOT CARE HOW IT FUNCTIONS THEY ONLY CARE IF IT DOES AS

ADVERTISED  TECH. TYPES CANNOT GRASP THAT ASPECT THAT I CAN SEE  BECAUSE OF

THAT SITUATION THEY WILL FOREVER BE IN A CATCH 22 SITUATION WHICH IS WHERE

THEY BELONG AND I/WE  WILL MAKE SURE THAT DOES NOT CHANGE BECAUSE OF THEIR

ARROGANT  ELITEST AS- HOLE BIG EGO DRIVEN TOTALLY COUNTER PRODUCTIVE 

ATTITUDES

 

SO BE IT I'M DONE ATTEMPTING TO HELP THEM EVOLVE    THEY CAN REMAIN IN THEIR

BOXES THAT WILL BECOME THEIR COFFINS   SO TO SPEAK   AS USUAL TED THANK YOU

FOR SENDING ONE OF MANY OVER THE  LAST 10 MONTHS  TOTALLY IGNORANT OF NEW 

EVOLUTIONARY SITUATIONS MAILS  THAT HAVE HELPED ME ATTEMPT TO BURY SITUATIONS

AS YOURSELF  

 

  I LOVE SKEPTICS BUT YOUR NO LONGER USEFUL TO ME IN MY QUEST   PLUS YOUR

JUST NO FUN ANYMORE I NEED  SOME NEW PLAYMATES HOPEFULLY THEY ARE NOT AS

IGNORANT AS YOU ARE TED   NEXT PLEASE

 

PLEASE  EXCUSE MY GRAMMAR NO ONE IS PERFECT  OR KNOWS IT ALL BUT THE

SKEPTICS WILL TELL YOU  THEY KNOW IT ALL AND  ARE PERFECT   IN THEIR BOOK

DRIVEN  PERCEIVED  ASSUMPTIONS          JUST ASK THEM

 

 

To: superior@blclinks.net, vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: peckfamily@mail.tds.net, jerry.williamson@amd.com, eric@voicenet.com

Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:00:58 EDT

Subject: Re: Special Edition ABOUT TILLEY FROM JACK ADDED, Jack ranting

 

    HAVE HIM MEASURE YOUR CUSTOMERS UNITS THAT SHOULD FROST THEM  GOOD  AND

MAYBE SHUT THEM UP BUT THEY  WILL RANT AND RAVE I CAN HERE THEM NOW  BECAUSE

IT WILL  NOT BE ABLE TO BE EXPLAINED BY THEIR BOOKS  AND YOU CAN PUBLISH

THOSE  TEST RESULT SITUATIONS IF YOU WISH 

 

THANK FOR THINKING OF THAT  I'M REAL TIRED OF THEM  THEY JUST TALK AND NOT

CHECK ANYTHING  PLEASE  SHOVE  IT DOWN THERE RUNNING MOUTHS   I THINK YOU

KNOW THEY WILL LOOK FOR ANYWAY THEY CAN TO DISCREDIT WHAT YOU DO PUBLISH 

BECAUSE YOU WILL DISPUTING THEIR ENTIRE BASE OF  TAUGHT IN THE BOX ELECTRICAL

KNOWLEDGE

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, superior@blclinks.net, editor@infinite-energy.com, etimes@teleport.com,

              edo@lilorbits.com

Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:10:21 EDT

Subject: Re: Electrician testing the RTPC

 

In a message dated 9/10/02 3:30:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, vcrepair@juno.com writes:

Ted Gondert:
No Jack, we understand simple readings, it's YOU that has no concept of electric power. We welcome some actual test results from an electrician. So far all we have read is Jack ranting incoherently making no sense at all. You said you have no technical knowledge so we ignore your claims.


REPLY YOU FORGET IDIOT I HAVEV BEEN INVOLVED 3 YEARS I KNOW WHAT THE METERS ARE READING IT IS NOT THAT DIFFICULT AND WHAT THE DRAW FACTORS SHOULD BE I CANNOT EXPLAIN THE NEW PROCESS IS WHAT I'M SATING AND WE DO NOT TALK TECH. WE SHOW OPERATIONAL TECH. BUT YOU DO NOT GET IT YOU TECH ONLY CLOWNS NEVER DO BUT BUS. TYPES DO AND THAT IS ALL WE CARE ABOUT NOY YOU CLOWNS WHY SHOULD WE ?? YOUR NOBODYS


Eric is just trying to point out errors possible in measurement. That is what experts do, they are aware of what they are measuring and possible errors. Fools like Jack believe anything. If the readings the electrician gets do NOTconfirm what you claim, only 110 VAC input 9 amps (1 KW) powers 3 HP(2.23KW) and 1 HP (746 watts) and arc welder supplying 100 amps, all running at the same time, then JACK will say the measurements are wrong. ;-)

ERIC TED I HAVE SEEN IT TESTED MANY TIMES THEY ARE ALWAYS THE SAME TED BUT YOU WILL NOT CHECK TED

I bet the electrician will notice that 30 amp screw-in circuit breaker Wayne uses for that 12/2 Romex wire since Code calls for 20 amps. Maybe the electrician can change a fuse for you Jack, since you and Wayne are too stupid to do that. :-)

REPLY TED AS STATED BUT YOU DO NOT GET IT THERE USE TO MORE EQ RUNNING THAN NOW IDIOT AND WILL BE MORE SOON AS STATED BEFORE IDIOT HE IS CHECKING A CUSTOMER NOT US IDIOT AND YOU SHOLD BE THERE TED TO VERIFY WELL TED ??

Since standard electrical theory seems to work everywhere else, why do you think that suddenly it's all obsolete? Will there be a change in the universe when that electrician examines the RTPC? Why did the world not change when "Infinite Energy" examined it?


REPLY YOU ALL READY SAW NEW ELECTRICAL THEORY BEING DEMOED TED IT DID THEY JUST DID PRINT IT BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT EXPLAIN IT and still cannot right gene mallove BUT E TIMES DID AND MANY SITUATIONS HAVE HAPPENED AND WE HAVE 350 MILLION NOT 390 AS REPORTED BY ME


YOU WERE CORRECT AND WE NEED 500 MIL. TO LAUNCH I THINK I MAY NOW BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH REST AS PER A CALL YESTERDAY FROM MINN. WE HAVE TURNED DOWN 20 BILLION BECAUSE THEY WANTED CONTROL NO GETS THAT OR WILL BE TOLD HOW IT FUNCTIONS EVER FIGURE IT OUT FOR YOURSELF YOU HAVE THE EDU. USE IT

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:32:47 EDT

 

   i DO NOT  NEED TO COME UNLESS THE IDIOT TED WAS COMING BUT ON SECOND THOUGHT THIS IS ALL NEW TO YOUR ELECTRICAN AND I WANT TO BE PRESENT SO THE CONCEPTS ARE FULLY UNDERSTOOD BY HIM BECAUSE YOUR STILL IN A LEARNING STAGE KEITH FOR A WHILE LONGER I PRESUME  99% TED FROM DETROIT ONE OF ERIC'S CONES   WILL NOT SHOW  

 

BUT  IT IS UP  YOU AND YOUR CUSTOMER WHEATHER I DO COME OR NOT   THAT UNIT IS

NOT ON THE LEVEL OF WHAT WE SHOW  HERE WHICH IS MORE ADVANCED BUT STILL FAR 

BEYOND  ANY CONVERTERS ON THE PLANET YOU KNOW THAT I'M SURE 

 

IT IS RUNNING ON 220 NOT 110 WHICH IS LESS EFF. THAN A 110 DRIVEN UNIT BUT

STILL EXOTIC AND WORLD CHANGING  AND NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT HE IS BUILDING

NOW KEITH  EVEN THE 110 DRIVEN UNIT IS A TINKER TOY NOW IN COMPARISON  YOU

KNOW KEITH I DO NOT JOKE

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: superior@blclinks.net, eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:06:09 EDT

Subject: Re: Testing the RTPC with electrician.

 

SAGINAW IS FINE W IS BUSY AND CANNOT COME BUT I CAN AND PREFER TO SO THE CONCEPTS ARE CLEARLEY UNDERSTOOD BY YOUR GUY  MY NO IS 810 618 9234  BUT WHAT ABOUT TED FROM DET. MY GUESS HE IS A NO SHOW PERIOD HIS  PEDDLE BIKE WILL NOT MAKE THAT FAR THAT I KNOW OF

 PLUS HE WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT HIS TAUGHT MATH DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE IN THIS CASE FOR EXPLAINING PURPOSES AND WITHOUT HIM THERE IT IS BASICALLY A WASTE OF TIME BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THE READINGS AS FAR AS I CAN SEE  AND WILL SAY THEY WERE NOT REPESENTED AND THAT IS THEIR OUT TO AVOID ACCEPTING SO UNTIL HE IS THERE I SEE NO POINT IN TESTING UNLESS YOU DO KEITH COMMENT PLEASE KEITH  I KNOW THEIR GAMES KEITH

THERE IS A GUY IN THE AREA THAT WAS ONCE COMING THAT HAS CONTACT WITH KREIG BUT HE NEVER SHOWED AFTER WE TALKED

 

KREIG SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN COME OTHER THAN NO SHOW TED WHO JUST SITS  BEHIND HIS COMOPUTER AS KREIG DOES AND THINKS THEY  ARE OUARTER BACKS  KEITH WE BOTH KNOW WHAT IS BEING ACCOMPLISHED IS NOT POSSIBLE ACCORDING TO THE SKEPTICS TAUGHT THEORY SO A SKEPTIC IN KREIGS CAMP NEEDS TO BE THERE PERIOD THAT I CAN SEE  NOBODY IS COMING HERE ANYMORE UNLESS THEY ARE INVESTERS WE DO NOT NEED THE KREIG TYPES ANYMORE FOR ANYTHING WE ARE FAR BEYOND THAT POINT KEITH

 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, superior@blclinks.net, vcrepair@juno.com

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:20:36 EDT

In a message dated 9/11/02 9:12:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, eric@voicenet.com writes:

The test report should describe the equipment used. Again, I feel that many power meters do not read voltage, could saturate with back spikes or don't properly integrate the voltage over time (assuming sinusoidal voltage).


REPLY SEE A SKEPTIC SHOULD ATTEND THAT UNIT IS FAR ADVANCED OVER ANY OF THAT TYPE ON THE MARKET AND IS IN A CUSTOMER SITUATION NOT OUR SITUATION AT ALL THE CUSTOMER HAS NO HIDEEN WIRES THAT THEY WOULD CLAIM IS PRESENT HERE OR BURYED DEVICES OR WHATEVER THEY WOULD TRY AND CLAIM IS THE REASON IT WORKS AS IT DOES

THEY DO NOT WANT TO LOOK AT THE ASPECT THAT THEY CANNOT EXPLAIN IF TESTED ERIC A SKEPTIC FROM YOUR CAMP WITH ELECTRICAL KNOWLEDGE ATTENDS SO THERE IS NO QUESTION AFTERWARDS OR THERE IS NO TESTING REPORTED PERIOD KEITH THAT IS THE DECSION OF THE CO. AND ERIC HAS STATED HE HAS NEVER CHECKED ANYTHING ANYWAY SO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT IN THE FIRST PART OF THE MAIL EXCEPT TO TRY AND PLAY A GAME RIGHT ERIC I HAVE YOU RECORDED ON PHONE SAYING THAT TO W ENOUGH WITH THE GAMES ERIC YOUR A POOR PLAYER

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, superior@blclinks.net, vcrepair@juno.com

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:35:13 EDT

 

          YES TALKING TO BEFORE IS A GOOD IDEA BUT WE WANT A NO. FOR YOU  KREIG TO CALL AFTER THE TEST WHILE YOUR SKEPTIC IS PRESENT AT THE TEST SO YOU CAN SPEAK WITH THEM ALSO WHEN WE ARE ALL PRESENT AT THE TEST BECAUSE I ALL READY KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THE TEST BTDT MANY TIMES ALL READY  BECAUSE MY GOAL IS TO TOTALLY GET RID OF YOU SKEPTICS ONCE AND FOR ALL BY TOTALLY DISCREDITING YOUR TAUGHT  BASE OF ELECTRICAL KNOWLEDGE AND PROVING IT

IS TOTALLY OBSOLETE AND DOES NOT APPLY AT ALL IN THESE NEW ELECTRICAL SITUATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. KREIG I ALL READY KNOW THE OUTCOME  SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SKEPTIC DUCKS SO TO SPEAK ARE LINED UP IN A NICE STRAIGHT ROW SO THEY ALL GO DOWN AT THE

SAME TIME THEN THAT PART OF MY JOB IS OVER  WITH AND I/WE  WILL BREAK OFF CONTACT TOTALLY WITH YOUR TYPES  ONCE THAT IS ACCOMPLISHED 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, superior@blclinks.net, vcrepair@juno.com

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:46:11 EDT

 

         SO THIS IS CLEAR ONE MORE TIME ERIC A SPEPTIC FROM YOUR CAMP HAS TO BE PRESENT AT ANY TESTING OF THE RTPC IN SAGINAW MI AT KEITHS CUSTOMER HOUSE SO THERE ARE NO UNANSWERED QUESTIONS  WE ALL READY HAVE THAT CUSTOMER ON TAPE WHEN W INSTALLED THAT UNIT AND HE IS VERY HAPPY TO SAY THE LEAST AS FAR AS I KNOW

 

I HAVE NOT BEEN TO THE CUSTOMERS HOUSE BUT DID MEET THE CUSTOMER HERE BEFORE HE PURCHASED THE RTPC WHICH SOLVED A PROBLEM FOR HIM AND THAT WAS HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO USE SINGLE PHASE MOTORS TO RUN HIS 3 PHASE  EQ. AT A FAR HIGHER POWER DRAW FACTOR IF HE  WOULD HAVE HAD TO GO THAT WAY  

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: superior@blclinks.net, eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:59:03 EDT

 

In a message dated 9/11/02 11:45:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, superior@blclinks.net writes:

Jack,

I don't care whether anybody else shows up but the electrician and myself or not. I have no axe to grind. I will report what the electican tells me and that's all. It was my intention to test the unit in Wayne's garage but I
really don't care which it is.

REPLY YOU CAN TEST ALL YOU WISH AND REPORT ALL YOU WISH THAT IS YOUR BUS BUT I KNOW THE SKEPTICS GAME AND I HAVE NO AXE TO GRIND EITHER I'M JUST TRYING TO GET RID OF THESE CLOWNS AND THAT IS WHY I SUGGESTED WHAT I DID

IF THOSE CLOWNS DO NOT HAVE A REP. THERE THEY CAN KEEP RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS DOES HE UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPTS IS MY QUESTION ?? BECAUSE THEY ARE BASICALLY NEW ON THAT LEVEL IF NOT I NEED TO BE THERE SO HE DOES I WOULD THINK UNLESS YOU HAVE THEM DOWN PAT IF SO I DO NOT NEED TO BE THERE COMMENT PLEASE KEITH OUR OPINION IS TESTING THE CUSTOMERS UNIT DOES NOT GIVE THE SKEPTICS ROOM TO DISPUTE WHICH IS THEIR GOAL I WANT THEM TO HAVE ZERO THEY CAN KNOCK


From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: superior@blclinks.net, eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com,

              ghawk@eskimo.com, dhowe17@hotmail.com

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:27:23 EDT

Subject: Re: Testing the RTPC with electrician.MORE COMMENT

 

In a message dated 9/11/02 11:45:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, superior@blclinks.net writes:
Jack, I don't care whether anybody else shows up but the electrician and myself or not. I have no axe to grind. I will report what the electican tells me and that's all. It was my intention to test the unit in Wayne's garage but I really don't care which it is.


REPLY THE SKEPTICS HAVE A GREAT DEAL TO LOSE KEITH IF THIS IS AS ADVERTISED INCLUDING IN SOME CASES THEIR JOBS IF THEY CANNOT EXPLAIN ALONG WITH THEIR BASE OF KNOWLEDGE WHY DO THINK NONE HAVE BEEN HERE TO CHECK ???

TED IS ONLY 50 MI AWAY AND HAS SENT MOUNTAINS OF MAILS OVER THE LAST YEAR ABOUT HOW IT HAS BEEN FOR 100 YEARS AND CALLING US KOOKS OR WHATEVER BECAUSE WE ARE DISPUTING HIS BASE OF KNOWLEDGE AND ON TOP OF THAT HE ALL READY SAW A DEMO WITH YOU KEITH AND NOW YOUR SELLING THEM AND HE IS STILL IN DETROIT RUNNING HIS MOUTH ABOUT HOW IT CANNOT BE POSSIBLE WITH HIS HEAD IN THE SAND SO TO SPEAK

THEY ARE NOT STUPID THERE JUST IGNORANT OF NEW SITUATIONS THEY KNOW IF IT AS ADVERTISED THEY ARE TOTALLY SCREWED IN REGARD TO THEIR BOOK TAUGHT ELECTRICAL KNOWLEDGE IF THEY CANNOT EXPLAIN HOW IT CAN FUNCTION AS IT DOES


I KNOW MANY POINTS I MAKE MAKE AN IMPACT I CAN TELL THAT FROM THE PHONE CONVERSATIONS I HAVE HAD WITH TED AND ERIC BUT THEY WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AT ALL BECAUSE THEY KNOW ALL THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT ELECTRICITY JUST ASK THEM


BUT ERIC SAYS IN MAIL EE'S DO NOT KNOW ABOUT WHAT SITUATIONS ARE CREATED BY THE WINDINGS OR THE OPERATIONAL DYNAMICS OF MOTORS BECAUSE NONE OF THAT IS TAUGHT TO THEM ALL ALL THOUGH THEY KNOW THEORY I'M SORRY BOYS THAT IS NOT ENOUGH THEY DO NOT HAVE AND ARE LACKING THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THEIR EDU. BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER TAUGHT TO THEM YOU KNOW THAT KEITH COMMENT PLEASE KEITH

 

Subject: Re: Testing the RTPC with electrician. EVEN MORE

Received: from JCarey9622@aol.com

             Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:41:05 -0400 (EDT)

 

THEY TRY AND KNOCK  ME ANY WAY THEY CAN   BUT  THE FACT IS WHETHER THEY LIKE

IT OR NOT ALL WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO IS SHOW An OPERATIONAL SITUATION  PERIOD 

   WHICH WE DO   WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO GO BEYOND THAT POINT IF WE DO NOT

WISH TO AND WE WILL NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES 

 

I'M REAL SORRY IF THEY CANNOT FIGURE IT OUT THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM THAT IS

THERE'S  I SUGGEST THEY USE THERE EDU. FOR SOME GOOD USE  AND THAT IS THEY

CAN TRY AND FIGURE IT OUT   WE WISH THEM GOOD LUCK   IN THEIR EFFORTS

 

From: vcrepair@juno.com

To: JCarey9622@aol.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com,superior@blclinks.net

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:22:51 -0400

Subject: Re: Testing the RTPC with electrician. EVEN MORE

 

On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:41:05 EDT JCarey9622@aol.com writes:

>  THEY TRY AND KNOCK  ME ANY WAY THEY CAN   BUT  THE FACT IS WHETHER  THEY LIKE

> IT OR NOT ALL WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO IS SHOW An OPERATIONAL SITUATION

**************** **************

Ted Gondert:

WOW! Jack sets a new world record, 8 silly emails in a few hours! :-)

 

In all this time Jack you have NOT given a real description of what makes the RTPC so special. You do NOT specify how the power input was measured nor how the power output was measured. Can't even change the fuse to show that less than 10 amps is used as claimed. You claim to know how the test results will be, so how do you know it? You don't have any technical knowledge, don't own a meter or know how to use one, can't even test the RTPC with a 1000 watt generator, etc. 

How can you tell that arc welder is putting out 100 amps? Did you measure the current and voltage?

 

If the electrician measured that customers unit that runs from 220 VAC and does NOT find an increase in output power than standard electrical theory predicts, you will claim that RTPC wasn't working right.

Now if it does work as YOU claim, that that electrician would be interested in finding out more, but we doubt that it will.

 

It's a long ways to Saginaw, don't know if I can get there but let me know a time and date so I can try to get there if possible.

 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, superior@blclinks.net

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:45:09 EDT

 

     TED YOU MORON YOU HAVE IT BACKWARDS AS USUAL THE EQ. OPERATES  BUT USES 

LESS LESS LESS LESS TO DO SO BECAUSE THE CURRENT IS  BEING USED IN A DIFFERENT MANOR THAT YOU KNOW  APPEARENTLY NOTHING  ABOUT YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND AND WILL NOT LOOK BUT  ARE YOU GOING TO KEITHS CUSTOMERS HOUSE OR NOT  WHAT IS IT ?? YES OR NO  

 

IT IS FAR  MORE EFF. THAN CURRENTLY POSSIBLE AND IS NOT CREATING MORE OUTPUT

THAN INPUT    THE IMPUT IS BEING USED WITHOUT A LOSS FACTOR AS IS THE CASE IN

THE REGULAR WORLD YOU KNOW ABOUT  I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THIS ANYMORE

BECAUSE IT IS USELESS TO DO SO WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE A BROKEN

RECORD

 

WE ONLY HAVE TO DEMO FOR THE 1000 TH TIME IDIOT NOT GIVE OUT ANYTHING ELSE

PERIOD  WHICH IS WHAT WE DO SCREW YOU IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT CLOWN IF YOU

CANNOT DISPROVE OUR CLAIM YOUR SCREWED PERIOD IF IT WORKS AS ADVERTISED 

WHICH IT DOES SO LOOK OR SHUT UP

 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, superior@blclinks.net

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:56:40 EDT

Subject: Re: Testing the RTPC with electrician. EVEN MORE

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    TED YOU NEED A SERIOUS ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT   WHAT DO THINK  AM I CORRECT

IN THAT ASSUMPTION ??

 

     YOU KNOW  TED I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE IN DET. THAT  ARE CONNECTED AND DO

NOT LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOUR AN ASS HOLE JERK OFF CLOSE NARROW SMALL

MINDED  IDIOT    WOULD YOU LIKE TO MEET THEM?  THEY MAY SPRING FOR DRINK  IT CAN BE ARRANGED THEY DO OWE ME A FEW FAVORS  AND I THINK IT IS TIME TO COLLECT  WHAT DO YOU THINK TED ?????????

 

From: vcrepair@juno.com

To: JCarey9622@aol.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com,superior@blclinks.net

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:16:11 -0400

 

 

On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:56:40 EDT JCarey9622@aol.com writes:

>     TED YOU NEED A SERIOUS ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT   WHAT DO THINK  AM I  CORRECT

> IN THAT ASSUMPTION ??

************ ************* ******************8

Ted Gondert:

The term "Attitude Adjustment" could be construed as threat of physical assault to change someone's attitude. Used like: "My wife needed an attitude adjustment so I hit her up side the head".

 

I don't need an "attitude adjustment", if anyone does it's Jack. We just ask for simple explanation of what your claims for RTPC mean. We try to explain to Jack what hundred years of scientific testing have proven in the equivalence of power units. But Jack says they are all wrong, his device uses energy more "efficiently".

We ask Jack to do some simple tests to verify his claims and he refuses. That is the mark of a crackpot. Make outrageous claims, do NOT understand what they are saying, just babble big words, etc.

 

You have claimed that others believe your claims for the RTPC etc. and think all skeptics are fools. But somehow you can never show us these people or let us contact them. Do any of your friends in Detroit have e-mail? Why can't they write us with what they have observed? Why is it that we NEVER hear or read anything from Wayne? Are you not his friend and "promoter", don't you ever communicate with him? Now Wayne apparently thinks he is so superior to the rest of the world that he shuns communication with mere mortals. Then he goes to his factory

job. We certainly commend Wayne on his hard work and dedication at the factory job. But how much time does he have left for his "scientific research"?

 

You just bleat the same idiotic sayings over and over: "The RTPC is just 'more efficient". But we ask you for proof and you can't do anything to demonstrate it. Will it run from 1000 watt generator? Can a generator connected to that alleged 3 or 5 HP motor produce 2000-3000 watts? If not why not?

 

I don't know if I can get chance to go to Saginaw, MI to test that other RTPC. Need to know the date and time to see if I can get there.

 

But if the electrician is competent and trustworthy we would trust what he measures. We assume he understands

power measurement better than I do, just have to make sure he can test the mechanical power output of the three phase motor that is powered by the RTPC. Guess if you read the HP rating of the motor and have the machine under full load you can assume the motor would be close to it's full output. Since your claims is 4 times or more "efficiency", that should be more than just measurement error. BUT it is possible to get significant errors on spikes or pulses, etc. If you had bothered to read those files from www.tinaja.com I sent, Muse112.pdf, Muse125.pdf and others that explain differences between average power and true root mean square or heat equivalence power.

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, superior@blclinks.net, mike@ucsofa.com

Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:35:22 EDT

 

WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT IDIOT THEN MORE PEOPLE WILL BE LAUGHING AT YOU CLOWN

BECAUSE I KNOW HOW TO WORD SOMETHING IDIOT YOU JUST DO KNOW NOT UNDERSTAND

THE LEGAL SIDE OF WHAT IS CONSIDERED THIS OR THAT  I KNEW THAT WHEN I SENT IT

STUPID 

 

YOU ARE THE BIGGEST IDIOT I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE  YOU CLOWNS FAIL TO

REALIZE THE JOB BEING DONE BY THE RTPC IS NOT POSSIBLE AT ALL ACCORDING TO

YOUR TEACHINGS AND ELECTRICAL UNDERSTANDING AND I JUST DO NOT SEE YOU SHOWING

FOR A TEST THEN HAVE TO EAT ALL YOU HAVE SAID

 

LOOK IT IS NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE RTPC

AS FAR THE WORK PERFORMED ASPECT WHICH IS ALL WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 

SURE I DO NOT KNOW HOW EXACTLY THE PROCESS WORKS BUT INFINITE DID NOT EITHER

ALL THAT MATTERS IDIOT IS THAT IT FUNCTIONS AS ADVERTISED

 

READINGS WILL JUST BE MORE CONFUSION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THEY ARE NOT GOING

TO HELP FIGURE OUT ANYTHING IF THAT IS WHAT YOUR THINKING YOU HAVE TO

UNDERSTAND YOUR NOT WIRED TO UNDERSTAND BY YOUR BOOKS AND THAT IS YOUR BASES

FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE YOU CLOWNS JUST DO NOT HAVE HANDS ON EXPERIENCE TO FALL

BACK ON 

 

TED VCR's ARE ON THEIR WAY OUT AND SO IS EE KNOWLEDGE   ERIC  IF SO YOU

CLOWNS ARE SCREWED CORRECT ? WE ARE NOT FAR AWAY FROM INTRODUCING AND THEN

YOUR MOOT POINTS  I NEEDED YOU TO CHECK A YEAR AGO BUT NOW IT IS TOTALLY  A

MOOT POINT IF YOU DO  WE DID NOT HAVE ALL THE BUS. DEALS LINED UP THEN AS WE

DO NOW

 

DENNIS SCREWED UP WHEN HE DID NOT COME AFTER THE TOUR WITH A FAT CHECK BOOK

ALSO HE FIGURED WE NEEDED HIM AND FOUND OUT WE DID NOT but he still needs us

NOW HIS COST FACTORS  TO BE A USER OF THESE TECH. WILL BE FAR MORE THAN THEY

WOULD HAVE THEN  I LIKE PEOPLE WITH CONTROL ATTITUDES LIKE DENNIS  THEY

ALWAYS SCREW UP OR MIS THE BOAT

 

THE DEC. DEADLINE WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM BUT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE NEW

SITUATIONS READY BEFORE THEN BUT STILL HAVE THE PUB. SITUATIONS THAT YOU

CLOWNS CANNOT EXPLAIN OR DISPROVE PLUS  LARGER VERSIONS OF THE PUB. ONE 

COULD HANDLE DENNIS'S NEEDS ALSO      ARE GOING TO BE AT THE TEST OR NOT

TED??  SURE SAGINAW IS A LONG WAYS ON A BICYCLE BUT IF START NOW YOU SHOULD

GET WITH TIME TO SPARE 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: superior@blclinks.net, vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, ghawk@eskimo.com, dhowe17@hotmail.com,

              jerry.williamson@amd.com

Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:31:52 EDT

Subject: TED  appears as a fool for not checking a year ago

 

TED YOU SEE NEW ELECTRICAL SITUATIONS  IN PUBLIC AND THEN SEE MAILS

PRESENTING THEM  BECAUSE OF ERIC AND YOU RANT AND RAVE ABOUT HOW IT HAS BEEN

FOR 100 YEARS AND CALL US NAMES FOR ALMOST A YEAR AND SEND MOUNTAINS OF MAIL 

SPOUTING WHAT BOOKS SAY

 

BUT DO NOT DO THE ONE THING YOU SHOULD HAVE AND THAT IS CHECKED IN THE FIRST

PLACE TO SEE IF OR NOT  THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL TED IT MAKES YOU

APPEAR AS A COMPLETE FOOL FOR NOT CHECKING AND NOW THERE IS AN INDEPENDENT

TEST PLANNED ON A UNIT WE HAVE SOLD THE FACT IS SOME ONE BOUGHT ONE IS ENOUGH

PROOF IT FUNCTIONS AS ADVERTIDED TED.

 

BUT YOU CLOWNS ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO SEE THAT OR DO NOT WANT TO SEE IT 

WHICH I THINK IS THE CASE AND YOUR NOT THAT FAR AWAY AND DO NOT KNOW IF YOU

CAN ATTEND OR NOT THAT MAKES YOU APPEAR AS EVEN A BIGGER FOOL FOR HEDGING 

 

BECAUSE OF ALL THE MAILS YOU SENT TED. I PLAYED YOU THE WAY I DID FOR A

REASON BECAUSE I KNEW YOU WOULD BURY YOURSELF WITH YOUR IGNORANCE AND

ARROGANCE AS ERIC HAS ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AND YOU CLOWNS CONTINUE TO DO SO

WITH PRODDING FROM ME   AS JERRY DOES TO  THE FACT IS IF WE CAN DEMO AS

ADVERTISED THAT IS ALL WE ARE  REQUIRED TO DO TO PROVE THE CLAIMS AND YOU ALL

READY SAW THAT TED IN PERSON  SO WHAT IS THE ISSUE YOU PEOPLE KEEP TRYING TO

MAKE I SEE NONE YOU CAN MAKE  BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT CHECKED IS YOUR DOWN FALL

PERIOD  AS FAR AS ARGUING ISSUES YOU DO NOT A LEG TO STAND ON SO TO SPEAK

 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com,

              ghawk@eskimo.com, dhowe17@hotmail.com

Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:13:17 EDT

Subject: ERIC THE OPPOSITE

 

<PRE> YOUR AN EE WHO PERFECTED  THE SUTUAION THAT ALLOWED TO BECOME ONE WAS IT

TESLA USING HERTZ'S AND FARADAYS WORK TO DO SO  WAS HE THEORY FIRST NO HE WAS

INVENTION FIRST THEN GET IT TO  WORK THEN CREATE THE THEORY JUST THE OPPOSITE

WAY YOU DO IT  SOMETHING DOES NOT SEEM RIGHT HERE TO ME  DID HE UNDERSTAND

MOTORS AND WINDINGS YES DO YOU NO AGAIN I SEE A PROBLEM HERE WITH YOUR

TEACHINGS DO YOU ??  WAKE UP YOU PEOPLE

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: superior@blclinks.net, vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com

Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:24:44 EDT

Subject: Re: Testing the RTPC with electrician. EVEN MORE

 

<PRE>     OK LETS LOOK AT THIS TED  SEES A DEMO  THAT HE DECLINED TO CHECK WHEN

OFFERED THEN WRITES MOUNTAINS OF MAIL OVER SEVERAL MONTHS  SAYING HOW IT HAS

BEEN FOR 100 YEARS  AND WILL NOT  COME 50 MI TO CHECK TO SEE IF AS ADVERTISED

THAT MAKES TOTAL ZERO SENSE THAT I CAN SEE   HE HAS TO BE A REAL IDIOT

BECAUSE ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD DO THAT THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATIONS FOR HIS

ACTIONS PERIOD PEOPLE

 

 

 

 

 

**

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: superior@blclinks.net, jerry.williamson@amd.com, Mike@ucsofa.com,

              etimes@teleport.com, editor@infinite-energy.com,

              halfox@qwest.net

Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:37:46 EDT

Subject: Re: Paul Pantone's bankruptcy papers and Jack claiming to work with him.

 

THANK YOU FOR THE REPLY TED  IT SAVED ME TIME  AND WAS VERY WELL WRITTEN IF I

MAY SAY     NOW FOR SERIOUS BUS.   PANTONE WAS INSTRUCTED ON HOW TO LOOK FOR

CLUES ONLY  WHEN HE CALLED HERE  DENNIS WILL NOT BE HELPED WITH ANY GEET

SITUATION AND IF PANTONE CANNOT FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GIVEN HIM THEN WE WILL

DEV. IT

 

HE DID NOT INVENT IT ANYWAY HE JUST HAS A PATENT ON IT BUT CAN BE CHANGED

ENOUGH THAT WE WOULD NOT VIOLATE HIS PATENT BUT  WILL STILL INCLUDE HIM 

UNLIKE DENNIS     IT HAS SOME FEASIBILITY TO THE POINT IT CAN BE UTILIZED TO

AN EXTENT SO DENNIS YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME AND SPINNING YOUR WHEELS IF YOUR

TRYING TO BUY HIS PATENT

 

REMEMBER DENNIS WHO WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU  IN NJ WHEN YOU THOUGHT YOU

HAD FIGURED OUT PAULS PROCESSER ME AND W   YOU DID NOT HAVE  A CLUE HOW IT

COULD BE ADVANCED AND AS FAR AS I KNOW STILL DO NOT

 

WE KNEW THEN BECAUSE OF YOUR ACTIONS THAT YOU WOULD BE TRYING TO SCREW PAUL I

SUGGEST YOU DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SCREW PAUL OR YOU WILL HAVE HELL TO PAY IF YOU

DO I THINK YOU KNOW THAT HELL CAN BE CREATED OR DO YOU WISH TO TEST THE WATER

SO TO SPEAK AND SEE IF IT IS HOT AND WILL BURN IF SO BE MY GUEST

 

   I WILL SAY DENNIS DOES LISTEN ONCE IN A WHILE UNLIKE YOU IGNORANT NO

CHECKING SKEPTICS  ALL YOU KNOW IS YOUR  NOW BACKWARD BOOK AND ARROGANCE AND

KNOW IT ALL ATTITUDE   TO GO WITH IT  WHICH IS THE REASON  I DO NOT EXPECT

YOU TO EVER FIGURE OUT  THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM THAT IS WHY I NEVER SEE YOU

EVOLVING PERIOD PASSED BEING TAUGHT DOGS  YOU NO CHECKING SKEPTICS MADE FOOLS

OUT OF YOURSELVES BY NOT CHECKING  THAT IS YOUR CATCH 22 BOYS

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com

Cc: jerry.williamson@amd.com, vcrepair@juno.com, Mike@ucsofa.com

Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:34:09 EDT

Subject: Re: good message from Jerry     - young vs old

 

In a message dated 9/15/02 8:47:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, eric@voicenet.com writes:


I just noticed the following post by Jerry I think hit it right on. It may well be that Jack (and possibly Wayne for that matter) worked for engineers for years and hated that they were calling the shots.


REPLY SORRY THAT IS NOT THE CASE IF YOU GUYS WOULD SEND TED THEN WE WILL SEE HOW MUCH ENG. REALLY KNOW BUT YOUR ALL TALK AND NO ACTION AS USUAL MIKE IS LAUGHING HIS ASS OFF AT YOU CLOWNS BECAUSE OF WHAT HE KNOWS AND SO AM I ELECTRICANS BASICALLY TELL EE'S TO GET LOST AND I KNOW ONE HAS SAID THAT TO YOU TWO
It may be that Jack's venom is really all about career frustration.
REPLY I DO NOT LIKE ASS HOLES AS YOU CLOWNS ARE I'M HAPPY AND ABOUT TO BECOME REAL HAPPY AND DO NOT NEED YOU PEOPLE ANYMORE TO CHECK YOUR CHECKING WOULD ONLY BE A MOOT POINT NOW WHERE I WAS REAL INTERESTED A YEAR AGO
It is strange that for the most part, the world of FE

is about bitter old men trying to desperately deny that they have pissed their lives away. It is rare to see young people into FE - I'm in my 40's but younger than most all the FE claimants I try to bring back to reality.

 REPLY THIS IS REAL FUNNY THE JOKE MAY BE ON YOU BOYS WHO CHECK NOTHING BEFORE OPENING YOUR MOUTHS SMART ONES CHECK IDIOTS DO NOT BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT ALL RIGHT THEN CHECK AND SEE IF YOU DO AND WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DO NOT YOU NEVER WANT TO GET TO THE POINT BOYS JUST KEEP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH IS ALL YOU DO AS USUAL WHATEVER



From:
jerry.williamson@amd.com <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bwt/member_detail?id=20763602>


Date: Tue Aug 27, 2002 10:01am
Subject: RE: Brown's gas can neutralize radioactive waste
Jack,

Stop talking like a third grader for a change. You sound like one of those old LP records that skips. I don't need to explain anything. If the device works and people buy it and are satisfied
that it works -- that is all the proof you need and the proof you will never get.

This is the funniest thing about you Jack! Not only do you "not get it" but you don't even have a clue as to what is important!


Face it Jack -- you're not all that hard to figure out. Your pissed off that we had the skill and aptitude to become successful in the scientific fields and the only connection with science you
have had or ever will have is that you wasted 40 years on an assembly line working for people like me and you hated it.

Well -- too bad for you -- get over it. Your life is pretty much over and mine is just getting started. With the 10 years or so you have left you should consider investing in things that bring you more enjoyment and peace instead of wasting all of your time with your hatred and bitterness.

This is the 248th (yes folks, e-mail #248) you have sent since you started your little tantrum back on 02/26/02 at 2:55 AM. You have sent e-mail out at every hour of the day except between 3:00 AM and 4:00 AM which leads me to believe that you literally have nothing to do with too much time on your hands.

Why don't you go get a job or do some volunteer work in a soup kitchen? Spread some good cheer and kindness around instead of all your sadness, hatred, and bitterness with your CAPS LOCK key stuck on.

Something to think about!  JW

From: vcrepair@juno.com

To: JCarey9622@aol.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com,jerry.williamson@amd.com,superior@blclinks.net

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:22:16 -0400

Subject: Re: good message from Jerry     - young vs old

 

 

On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:34:09 EDT JCarey9622@aol.com writes:

 

REPLY SORRY THAT IS NOT THE CASE IF YOU GUYS WOULD SEND TED THEN WE WILL SEE HOW MUCH ENG. REALLY KNOW BUT YOUR ALL TALK AND NO ACTION AS USUAL MIKE IS LAUGHING HIS ASS OFF AT YOU CLOWNS BECAUSE OF WHAT HE KNOWS   AND SO AM I  ELECTRICANS  BASICALLY TELL EE'S TO GET LOST AND  I KNOW ONE HAS SAID THAT TO YOU TWO

**************** *************** **********************

Ted Gondert

So which electrician believes you Jack? Did the local electrician in Flint, MI ever test that RTPC? It would be interesting to read some real test results. If the RTPC works as you claim, then an electrician would be interested and be promoting it also.

 

You are too strange to trust Jack. That's one reason I haven't tested the RTPC. Jack can't give us any verifiable test results for RTPC, just rants about how today's electrical theory is all wrong. But Jack doesn't understand any electrical theory. Wayne is only available a couple hours a day so unless I get there at specific time can't test.

 

You never told us if Wayne is an electrician at the factory he works at. Wayne can't e-mail or write anything describing his RTPC apparently.

 

Will the RTPC run from 1000 watt gas generator since you claim only 110 VAC 9 amps or 1 KW is all that it needs to run 3 HP and 1 HP three phase motors and arc welder outputting 100 amps, all running under load?

 

Have you connected a generator to that alleged 3 HP or 5 HP motor on the air compressor and used the 2000 to 3000 watts available to power other devices? You said it only requires 400 watts input power.

 

That's the way it works Jack. If you have a 5 HP gasoline engine and connect a generator to it, then 5 X 746 watts = 3730 watts or 3000 watts factoring in efficiency, etc. should be available. Just look up

specifications for gasoline generators in catalog or at local hardware or industrial supply store in Flint, MI. But Jack claims that a 1.5 HP or 1000 watt generator will power all that equipment. Maybe you can

rent a small 1000 watt generator Jack and demonstrate how it runs the RTPC while those 3HP and 1 HP motors and arc welder are working.


From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com, superior@blclinks.net

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 07:54:55 EDT

Subject: Re: good message from Jerry     - young vs old

 

 

<PRE>ALL YOU HAVE ARE EXCUSES TED  ARE YOU CHECKING YES OR NO ??  IT MAKES ZERO

DIFFERENCE  TO US KEITH HAD NO PROBLEM CHECKING AND HE IS SELLING UNITS BECAUSE HE GAINED KNOWLEDGE YOUR TYPES ARE TO CLOSE AND NARROW MINDED TO EVOLVE  AND NEVER WILL THAT I CAN SEE PERIOD AND CARE LESS IF YOU DO PLUS YOUR TYPES ALL READY KNOW IT ALL TO START WITH AND YOUR NOBODYS ANYWAY  YOU JUST TRY TO PUFF UP YOUR EGO's SO YOU CAN THINK YOUR SOMEBODYS  SMART PEOPLE CHECK  BEFORE THEY OPEN THEIR MOUTHS     IDIOT ARROGANT ONES  DO NOT WHICH ARE YOU??

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, jerry.williamson@amd.com, superior@blclinks.net,

              ghawk@eskimo.com, dhowe17@hotmail.com, mike@ucsofa.com

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:27:51 EDT

Subject: Re: good message from Jerry     - young vs old

 

  TED YOU CAN  ASK Q WHEN YOU TEST  UNTIL THEN NO MORE WILL BE ANSWERED PERIOD THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON LONG ENOUGH  TED 2 NAT. MAGS HAVE BEEN HERE AND ONE DID TESTING BUT DID NOT UNDERSTAND AND WAS HERE IN 3 DAYS  

 

YOUR 50 MIN AWAY AND HAVE BEEN SENDING MAILS FOR ABOUT A YEAR  HELLO IDIOT ARE YOU THERE ? ERIC THIS CLOWN HAS SHOT ANY CREDITABILITY YOU EVER HAD BY NOT CHECKING A DESCRIBED SITUATION AS YOUR REP. BECAUSE HE ALIENS HIMSELF WITH YOU   RIGHT AS ONE OF YOUR FOLLOWERS RIGHT 

 

ERIC YOU HAVE BASICALLY ZERO EXCUSES FOR NOT ASKING SOMEONE LOCAL TO TEST

ESPECIALLY AFTER A YEAR OF MAIL  IE DID NOT TALK ABOUT WATER HEATERS AND ALL  THE BS YOU TALK ABOUT AND THERE A NAT. SITUATION YOUR A NOBODY CUBE BOY  AT A CO. 

 

SO GET OFF OF IT PLEASE YOUR BEYOND BORING AS TED  THE VCR REPAIR MAN AND JERRY  ANOTHER CUBE BOY EE  IS ALSO  YOUR NOTHING MORE THAN A MINOR PLAYER AT YOUR CO. RIGHT BUT FROM BEHIND A COMPUTER YOUR A WANNA BE  ELECTRICAL KNOW IT ALL GOD  WITH A GIANT EGO      

GIVE US ALL A BREAK ERIC ON TOP OF THAT YOUR NOT EVEN OPEN MINDED AND BY BEING THAT WAY WILL PROBABLY CREATE YOUR OWN DOWN FALL THAT IS REAL SMART ERIC  BUT TYPICAL FROM YOUR TYPES

 

you people wanted to make this personal  so be it  SITUATIONS WERE PRESENTED TO I.E. THEY WERE HERE IN 3 DAYS THE SAME WITH YOU AND YOU PEOPLE RANT AND RAVE FOR A YEAR  I.E. INVESTIGATES YOU CLOWNS DO NOT  YOU  CLOWNS JUST WANT TO HERE YOURSELVES TALK SO YOU CAN PUFF UP YOUR EGO's 

 

From: vcrepair@juno.com

To: JCarey9622@aol.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:53:12 -0400

Subject: IE testing the RTPC?

 

 

On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:27:51 EDT JCarey9622@aol.com writes:

>   TED YOU CAN  ASK Q WHEN YOU TEST  UNTIL THEN NO MORE WILL BE

> ANSWERED  PERIOD THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON LONG ENOUGH  TED 2 NAT. MAGS HAVE BEEN

> HERE AND  TO I.E. THEY WERE HERE IN 3 DAYS THE SAME WITH YOU AND YOU PEOPLE

> RANT AND

********** ************* *****************

But who is IE? It was Electrifying Times that did the article on Confidential Technology. Infinite Energy never printed anything. Besides, that is their business to "investigate" claims of "free energy". They want stories for their magazines. I bet you didn't call them "as-holes" and "boo-foo buddies" or describe how you would sodomize them either. Nor did you threaten them with "friends in Detroit who do 'attitude adjustments."

 

So why have we not heard from any of those magazines yet? Oh that's it the "old conspiracy to suppress new technology". Crackpots have been using that excuse for a hundred years. ;-)

Jack fantasizes we are members of the Status Quo Enforcement Agency.  The SQEA has the Men In Black check up on any new technology like "free energy" that could change the Status Quo and suppress it by making the inventors look like cracpots, etc.  Dennis Lee mentions the Bonneville Power Association tried to suppress his machines

several years ago and threatened him. ;-)

 

So Jack if I get a chance to test the RTPC with someone, when would be a good time? Just 12:00 to 2:00 PM is when Wayne is available? Is Wayne home on weekends? What about Mondays, if Wayne  doesn't work the afternoon shift on Sunday, then his Monday mornings should be free.

 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, seperior@blclinks.net

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:33:09 EDT

Subject: Re: IE testing the RTPC?

 

   TEST THE UNIT KEITH SOLD FIRST  AND I WANT TO BE THERE FOR THAT TEST AND COULD BE  LATE AFTERNOON OR EVENINGS ON WEEKENDS ONLY PROBABLY A SUN. BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN WORKING  SAT. BUT MAY BE OUT OF THERE FOR GOOD REAL SOON  I WILL LET YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A TIME DURING THE WEEK  BUT FIGURE FOR A WEEKEND BUT SOON IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR YOU TO COME BECAUSE INTRODUCTIONS WILL BE TAKING PLACE

 

A YEAR AGO IT WAS A DIFFERENT STORY BUT NOW YOUR TESTING IS BASICALLY A MOOT POINT AND NOT NECESSARY AT ALL TO ANY EXTENT BUT YOU STILL CAN IF YOU WISH BUT KEITHS SITUATION COMES FIRST PERIOD IF POSSIBLE that way you cannot dispute and say that there is a hidden power source because that is the game you will try after you leave  you will say there must be a buried situation i know your game Ted.  SO PL;EASE DO NOT TRY AND PLAY ME BECAUSE YOUR NOT THAT GOOD AT IT YOU JUST THINK YOU ARE AS ERIC DOES  PLEASE BOYS YOU BORE ME

 

From: vcrepair@juno.com

To: JCarey9622@aol.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com,superior@blclinks.net

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:04:30 -0400

Subject: Re: IE testing the RTPC?

 

 

On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:33:09 EDT JCarey9622@aol.com writes:

>    TEST THE UNIT KEITH SOLD FIRST AND I WANT TO BE THERE FOR THAT  TEST AND

> COULD BE  LATE AFTERNOON OR EVENINGS ON WEEKENDS ONLY PROBABLY A

 

>  A YEAR AGO IT WAS A DIFFERENT STORY BUT NOW YOUR TESTING IS  BASICALLY A MOOT  POINT AND NOT NECESSARY AT ALL TO ANY EXTENT BUT YOU STILL CAN IF  YOU WISH

********* ***************8 **********************

Ted Gondert

It would be interesting to test the RTPC. But you have NOT been able to provide reliable test results in all this time. So glad to see that soon you will be able to.

 

PS. I noticed in your last e-mail that "TED YOU CAN  ASK Q WHEN YOU TEST"

WOW! you know "Q" from James Bond movies, the guy that makes all those gadgets James Bond uses? We would like to meet him. :-)

 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com, superior@blclinks.net

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:10:37 EDT

 

THOSE SITUATIONS CAN BE DISCUSSED AT TIME OF TESTING BECAUSE IT IS A WASTE OF

TIME TO DO SO UNTIL VERIFIED AS KEITH HAS DONE BUT YOU PEOPLE HAVE NOT SO

UNTIL YOU DO WHAT IS THE USE TO DO SO NOW THAT I KNOW OF UNLESS YOU CAN

CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE

 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com, superior@blclinks.net,

              ghawk@eskimo.com, dhowe17@hotmail.com, mike@ucsofa.com,

              jerry.williamson@amd.com, editor@infinite-energy.com

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:53:54 EDT

Subject: Re: business opportunities for RTPC, etc.

 

    YOU PEOPLE DO NOT CHECK SO DISCUSSION IS A WASTE OF TIME UNTIL YOU DO  

THE DEMOS HAVE BEEN PLAINLY STATED AS THEY WERE FOR INFINITE ENERGY WHO WAS

HERE IN THREE DAYS AFTER A PHONE DESCRIPTION THEY ARE GENIUS's  COMPARED TO

YOU CLOWNS  AND THEY ARE STILL CLUELESS EVEN AFTER THEY BUILD AN OBSOLETE

VERSION USING OUR DEV. INSTRUCTIONS      RIGHT GENE ? 

 

  YOU HAVE NO IN PERSON CONCEPT KNOWLEDGE AS KEITH OR BRUCE MELAND, OR GARY

VESPERMAN   DOES TO BASE YOUR JUDGMENTS ON  IN THE FIRST PLACE     AND KEITH 

SELLS OUR UNITS   AND YOU THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL  PLEASE      MOST ANY FOOL

WOULD NOT MAKE JUDGMENTS UNTIL THEY KNOW THE MAGNITUDE OF THE SITUATION

EXCEPT IN THE BOX PEOPLE LIKE YOU

 

YOUR INSTANT  EXPERTS ON EVERYTHING WITHOUT ANY ACTUAL IN PERSON CONCEPT

KNOWLEDGE  PLUS TED ALL READY SAW A DEMO   THAT MAKES YOU APPEAR AS IDIOTS 

PLEASE YOU CLOWNS ANYONE CAN SEE THAT BUT YOU PEOPLE YOU CANNOT SEE PAST YOUR

NOSE AND DO NOT WISH TO THAT I CAN SEE

 

OTHERWISE  IF TED WAS SMART WHICH HE IS APPEARENTLY NOT   being only 50 MI

away WOULD HAVE CHECKED A YEAR AGO AS KEITH THE BUS TYPE DID RIGHT AFTER THE

SHOW IN AUG.  INSTEAD OF SENDING MOUNTAINS OF MAIL SAYING HOW IT HAS BEEN FOR

100 YEARS       HELLO ARE YOU THERE PEOPLE ?? wake up please  YOU HAVE MADE

FOOLS OUT OF YOURSELFS  WITH YOUR MAILS 

 

WHY DO YOU THINK I PLAYED YOU THE WAY I DID SO YOU WOULD     THANKS IDIOTS

FOR ACCOMMODATING ME TO THE POINT YOU HAVE  SO I CAN MAKE YOU APPEAR AS FOOLS

   YOU HAVE BURIED yourselves BECAUSE OF THE FACT HE NEVER CHECKED AND HAS 

HAD A YEAR TO DO SO NOW YOUR MOOT POINTS

 

I DO NOT EXPECT YOU CLOWNS TO UNDERSTAND ANY OF THIS JERRY,TED AND ERIC  THE

NEW LARRY,  MOE AND CURLY AND THAT IS AN INSULT TO THOSE CLASS ARTISTS  YOUR

ARROGANCE MAKES ME CHUCKLE EVERYTIME I SEE IT IN PRINT BUT YOU HAVE BECOME

VERY BORING BECAUSE YOUR TUNE NEVER CHANGES  SORRY THERE IS NO FUTURE BEING A

SKEPTIC BECAUSE YOU WILL NEVER EVOLVE BY BEING ONE

 

IT IS TOTALLY COUNTER PRODUCTIVE THINKING  THE NAME OF THE GAME IS BEING

PRODUCTIVE BOYS BUT I THINK THAT THINKING IS TO ADVANCED FOR YOU CLOWNS SMART

PEOPLE INVESTIGATE NOT SIT BEHIND THEIR COMPUTERS AND BE ARM CHAIR 

JUDGEMENTAL QUARTERBACKS AS YOU CLOWNS ARE 

 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com, dhowe17@hotmail.com,

              ghawk@eskimo.com, sarfatti@well.com

Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 11:20:56 EDT

Subject: i thought you would like to know so the Eric K wanna be types could make snide

 

In a message dated 9/18/02 1:31:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, rfrazier@altenergycenter.com writes:

ignorant remarks as they usually do because they have not checked but have sent mountains of mail for about a year about how they know it all and are instant experts on any subjects. it appears The disk that the clowns who did not check and could have had a copy of must have been real interesting for people on this level to come to see in person

Date:9/18/02 1:31:13 PM Eastern Standard Time
From:rfrazier@altenergycenter.com <mailto:rfrazier@altenergycenter.com>
To:JCarey9622@aol.com <mailto:JCarey9622@aol.com>
CC:rfrazier@altenergycenter.com <mailto:rfrazier@altenergycenter.com>
Sent from the Internet
Jack,

I'm still interested in working with you guys. Perhaps we can put some of
the products in the Alternate Energy Center. I still haven't gotten the CD
you mentioned. You can send it to the address below. DELETED


RON A 65 YEAR OLD Vice President from KETTERING UNIV. WHICH USE TO BE GMI WHO IS NOT AN ENGINEER IS COMING TODAY HE WAS A PERSONAL FRIEND OF C.S MOTT WHO FOR THE MOST PART BUILD GM TO VIEW OPERATIONAL SITUATIONS AND WANTS A 5 PAGE PRESENTATION WHICH WILL BE CONCEPTS ONLY TO TAKE WITH HIM TO GERMANY NEXT WEEK (THE FLINT JOURNAL and ABC CHANNEL 12 ARE NOT WELCOME BECAUSE OF THEIR PAST ATTITUDE'S THAT I DO NOT CARE FOR BUT CAN CALL ME IF THEY WISH AT 810 618 9234 I CARE LESS IF THEY DO OR NOT )
WHERE HE WILL BE CONFERRING WITH SEVERAL UNIV. I THINK HE HAS BASICALLY SAW THE HAND WRITING ON THE WALL IN REGARDS TO THE MAJORITY OF ENGINEERING PRACTICES NOW BECOMING OBSOLETE AFTER VIEWING THE DISK BUT ONLY THE MINOR SITUATIONS ARE DEMONSTRATED ON IT

RANKING OFFICIALS OF THE NEW MOTT TECH. CENTER ARE COMING ALSO THEY WERE COMING LAST WEEK BUT IT DID NOT WORK OUT WITH OUR TECH. DEV. WHO WAS NOT AVAILABLE AT THE TIME THEY WANTED TO COME .

ONE OF THE FAR MORE ADVANCED PHASE CONVERSION SITUATIONS WILL BE READY NEXT WEEK WE ARE NOT GOING TO MARKET WHAT WAS PUB. IN E TIMES BECAUSE IT IS JUST TO OBSOLETE ALL THOUGH THE MOST ADVANCED OF ITS TYPE ON THE PLANET IF JUST THE NOW OBSOLETE VERSION WAS USED ON A PLANET WIDE BASES WE WOULD FOR GO ANY ELECTRICAL DEMAND INCREASES UNTIL 2080 SITUATIONS OF THAT MAGNITUDE ARE BEYOND MOST PEOPLES IMAGINATION

CONSIDERING PRESENTLY DEMAND WILL DOUBLE BY 2020 FOR KETTERING AND MOTT TO BE INVOLVED THEY WILL HAVE TO ANNOUNCE PUBLICLY THAT THE MAJORITY OF ENGINEERING PRACTICES THAT ARE CURRENTLY TAUGHT ON THE PLANET ARE BASICALLY OBSOLETE IF NOT WE WILL LEAVE THEM BEHIND TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES

IT MUST BE HELL BEING PUT IN A POSITION OF THAT MAGNITUDE SUCH IS LIFE SOMETIMES IT APPEARS THE TIME MAY HAVE ARRIVED FOR A PYRIDINE SHIFT IN ENGINEERING AND PHYSICS KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT I PREDICTED UP TO 3 YEARS AGO WAS COMING THAT IS WHY ALL THE MAILS WERE GENERATED SO THE WORLD WOULD BE PREPARED WHEN IT OCCURRED

ENJOY AND YOU ALL HAVE A NICE DAY IT HAS BEEN REAL FUN PLAYING 4 D MIND GAMES WITH EVERYONE I ACTUALLY FEEL SORRY FOR MOTT AND KETTERING I WOULD NOT LIKE SOMEONE CRUSHING MY WORLD EITHER BY THEY WILL GET USE TO IT IT APPEARS THEY HAVE ZERO CHOICE AS YOU DO ALSO

I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE FILM MAKER ABOUT THE DOCUMENTARY SINCE SPRING IT IS NOT THAT IMPORTANT NOW IF IT IS DONE OR NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE WORLD WIDE CREDITABILITY SINCE HE WAS HERE AND 350 MILLION IN SIGNED INTENT TO BUS LETTERS AND ARE 150 MILLION SHORT BUT NATURALLY IT WOULD BE A PLUS. A GREAT DEAL HAS CHANGED AND WILL CHANGE IN THE FUTURE SINCE HE WAS HERE IN AUG. 2001 ON HIS WORLD WIDE IN SCOPE FACT FINDER

J. R CAREY CO FOUNDER CONFIDENTIAL TECHNOLOGIES FLINT MI. AND POSSIBLY THE VOICE OF POSITIVE CHANGE PLEASE CALL ME THE IDIOT I ALWAYS ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS MY FAVORITE NAME TO BE CALLED MIT you blew it YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE.


From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: sarfatti@well.com, eric@voicenet.com, vcrepair@juno.com,

              dhowe17@hotmail.com, ghawk@eskimo.com

Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:01:05 EDT

Subject: Re: i thought you would like to know so the Eric K wanna be types could make ...

 

<PRE> I WANTED  TO STICK  IN  AND THEN POUND IN  THE DEATH NAIL FOR YOUR ARROGANT

BASE OF KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE YOUR SUCH A SWEETHEART OF A GUY JACK S  YOU SHOULD

HAVE SAW ME WHEN I WAS IN SAN FRAN  IN JUNE  NOW YOU WILL BE LEFT OUT IN THE

COLD WITH THE REST OF THE AS- HOLE CLOWNS LIKE YOU    ABUSE@AOL YOUR A POOR

JOKE  YOUR Ph.d  SKIN WILL GO GOOD WITH MUSTARD BUT IT MAY GIVE YOU GAS AND

BURN LIKE HELL WNEN IT COMES OUT 

 

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: rfrazier@altenergycenter.com, sarfatti@well.com, eric@voicenet.com

Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 17:39:10 EDT

Subject: Re: i thought you would like to know so the Eric K wanna be types could make ...

 

In a message dated 9/19/02 11:03:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, vcrepair@juno.com writes:


So where can someone see a copy of that disk, with all the information
about Confidential Technology and why haven't you made a
webpage yet so we all can be amused or "educated" by viewing it?
REPLY IF YOU WANT TO TEST THE UNIT KEITH SOLD WE WILL GIVE YOU ONE WEB SITE IS ALMOST UP ROME WAS NOT BUILT IN A DAY
You still have NOT provided any reliable evidence to support your claims
for "efficiency" of the RTPC. REPLY THEN TEST NO ALL TOU CAN DO IS TALK Everyone you claimed endorses Confidential
Technology we have followed up on says they have NOT seen anything
to make them believe you either.


REPLY WHO ???
The Russian magazine www.faraday.ru


ifo@faraday.ru Alexander Frolov says he never got anything worth
publishing
from you,


REPLY ALL THAT GETS PUBLISHED IS WHAT E TIMES PUB BECAUSE FOR THE 1000 TH TIME DEMOS CAN BE PROVIDED.
but for some reason they did put a picture of you with your


Saleen Mustang Cobra on the cover. Infinite Energy never published
anything although you claimed they tested it and found only 400 watts
doing the work of 3600 watts.
REPLY WE WILL SHOW ALSO THE PAPER WORK FROM THEM I E ABOUT THE ONE W TOLD THEM HOW TO BUILD
In brief, you have not provided details of what needs to be tested to
verify your claims.


REPLY THAT HAS BEEN STATED 1000 TIMES
You threaten me with sodomy and "guys in Detroit


who can do "attitude adjustments".


REPLY YOUR NOT WELCOME ANYWAY BECAUSE OF YOUR ATTITUDE
Then wonder why I haven't bothered


to travel to Flint, MI to test your RTPC. You have NOT found even
one local electrician or whoever to test it yet.
REPLY WHO NEEDS ONE WHEN YOU CAN GET A NAT. MAG TO THE VIEWING OF OPERATIONAL SITUATIONS WITH MOTT AND KETTERING ATTENDING WENT REAL WELL TODAY




From: JCarey9622@aol.com

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Cc: eric@voicenet.com

Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 23:34:02 EDT

Subject: Re: Alleged endorsement of Jack Carey

 

 

In a message dated 9/19/02 9:50:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, vcrepair@juno.com writes:

Ted Gondert
We will believe it when we see it. Why is it we NEVER can find anyone who openly endorses Confidential Technology? I've already pointed out that people you mentioned before that I followed up on deny endorsing you. Now you have alleged endorsement from Mott and
Kettering University. We will wait until we can hear it from them.

But wait, they don't want to be obsolete. ;-)

REPLY JUST GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND CHECK THE UNIT KEITH SOLD NO YOU HAVE TO RUN YOUR IGNORANT JEALOUS MOUTH AS USUAL YOU HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PLAY THESE LAME GAMES FOR YEAR NOW TED NOT A WEEK IDIOT I PLAYED FOR A WHILE FOR A REASON


BUT NOT ANYMORE IT IS NOT WORTH THE TIME BECAUSE YOU NEVER CHECKED NOW YOU NOT NEEDED

AS LAST YEAR SO I COULD HAVE BURIED THE SKEPICS THEN BUT THEIR GOING DOWN NOW ANYWAY AND THE MAJORITY OF THE INVESTMENT IS IN PLACE NOW SO YOUR A MOOT POINT TED GO FIX A VCR I'M NOT TALKING UNTIL YOUR READY TO CHECK THE UNIT KEITH SOLD

So where are all the amazing devices you promised to have in "90 days" last year?

Jack writes:
"(THE FLINT JOURNAL and ABC CHANNEL 12 ARE NOT WELCOME BECAUSE OF THEIR PAST ATTITUDE'S THAT I DO NOT CARE FOR BUT CAN CALL ME IF THEY WISH AT 810 618 9234 I CARE LESS IF THEY DO OR NOT ) "

So Jack, you don't like it when local media exposes you as a crackpot? Why couldn't you impress them? Surely the camera guys and assistants would have been amazed at your fantastic Confidential Technology. ;-)  You sure blew it BIG TIME THERE! A credible news story would have gotten sent to the networks, etc. and soon the investors would be lining up at your door. But guess Jack couldn't demonstrate anything worthwhile to them. ;-(

I should try to contact the local media in Flint to see if I can get a copy of their information on Jack. Did it even air? Or did they just throw it in the can? Maybe they can run it on April 1st. :-) But don' worry Jack, you're not alone. Many crackpots "inventions" suddenly don't work when camera crews get there. That "Professor Searl" (whatever) in England had alleged self powered flying disk, but when the TV crew got there to tape it, suddenly no go. Searl said that the energy field from their video cameras must have damped the field but he thanked them because all the other times the disk would start flying then disappear.

Jack you better seek professional help, your delusions of power are getting out of control. You claim that all existing technology is obsolete, that you will soon be rich and powerful. You will "crush" all the skeptics, etc.
Maybe it's time for you to get on "Dr. Phil" show Jack. ;-)

 

From: JCarey9622@aol.com

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   TED       AS A SKEPTIC YOU MAKE ZERO SENSE BECAUSE YOU SAW A  PUBLIC DEMO

THAT AMAZED THE PEOPLE WATCHING  (their reactions are on tape)  THAT HAD AN

UNDERSTANDING OF ELECTRICAL MOTORS BUT NONE WOULD CHECK IT INCLUDING YOU  AND

YOU HAD METERS

 

THEN YOU SEND MOUNTAINS OF MAIL FOR ABOUT A YEAR  ABOUT HOW IT HAS BEEN FOR

100 YEARS AND YOUR 50 MI. AWAY AND YOU NEVER CHECK YOU JUST TALK  KEITH

CHECKED AND IS SELLING UNITS  HE HAS BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES FROM SAGINAW THE

DEMO IS AS YOU SAW IT BUT IS OPERATING MORE EQUIPMENT AS STATED IN A NAT.

PUB. NOT JUST A MAIL 

 

YOUR ACTIONS  IN PRINT HAVE MADE A FOOL OUT YOU AND YOUR BO FOO BUDDY TO WHO

HAS MADE A FOOL OUT HIMSELF FOR SUPPORTING YOU THAT IS WHAT ARROGANCE WILL DO

FOR YOU CLOWNS  TO PROVE A NEW EVOLUTIONARY ELECTRICAL  THEORY  THE FIRST IN

100 YEARS YOU ONLY NEED TO PROVIDE A DEMO DOING SO NOTHING MORE IS REQUIRED

WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT AS- HOLE 

 

ARE YOU GOING TO CHECK THE UNIT KEITH SOLD OR NOT ?????   IS THE QUESTION IF

HE CAN ARRANGE IT WITH THE CUSTOMER  THAT IS THE ONLY SITUATION   HERE THAT

IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED IF NOT SHUT UP BECAUSE THAT IS THE NEXT STEP IN ALL

THIS BACK AND FORTH MAIL

 

From: "eric krieg" <eric@voicenet.com>

To: vcrepair@juno.com

Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:57:52 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Fwd: this went a idiot at cbs news when he asked to be removed

 

Ted,

 

    this is one of Jack's better rants.  You can really see the delusions

of grandeur.  He also swipes at several different people at the same

time.   I would love to know what is going through Mallove's head

while reading these.  Jack is trying so hard to taunt him to jump in the

fray.

 

    the next message is interesting - he makes a testable claim.  I

think I'll tell him he's on if he can let someone local look first.

 

Eric

------------- Forwarded message follows -------------

 

   PLUS HE FAILED TO CONSIDER THAT CBS IN TIME WILL BE USING

THE NEW POWER

CONVERSION SITUATIONS AND HE WILL BE TO AS YOU WILL  BECAUSE

THEY WILL BE FAR

MORE COST EFFECTIVE BECAUSE SAVING MONEY IS THE NAME OF THE

GAME    NOT HOW

SOMETHING FUCTIONS 

 

WHICH IS ALL IDIOT SCI. TYPES THINK ABOUT  THEY ARE CLUELESS

ABOUT THE BUS.

ASPECTS  AND WOULD BE FOOLS NOT TO USE A SITUATION OF THIS

MAGNITUDE  ANYTIME

YOU CAN USE FAR LESS POWER TO CONDUCT THE SAME AMOUNT OF

WORK WHO WOULD NOT

USE A SITUATION LIKE THAT ?? 

 

WHEN YOU BUY SAY A NEW FRIDGE AND IT USES FAR LESS POWER

THAN YOUR OLD ONE

THAT IS EFF. NOT OU  THE SAME THEORY APPLYS HERE   AS GOING

FROM 20 MI PER

GAL TO 30  YOUR STILL ONLY USING ONE GAL.  THAT IS HOW PHASE

CONVERSION

FUNCTIONS ALSO  IT IS THAT SIMPLE  USE YOUR LOGIC IF YOU HAVE

ANY  VERY FEW

DO   NOT YOUR MATH

 

MOTT AND KETTERING DID IT WAS REFRESHING TO SEE SOME Ph.D

TYPES THAT HAD

LOGIC AS RALPH CRUISE DID WHEN HE CAME WITH VESPERMAN  BUT

GARY DID NOT AND

WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT HE BASICALLY KNEW ZERO ABOUT

ELECTRICAL SITUATIONS

 

IF HE HAD SUPPORTED WHAT HE SAW HERE  BECAUSE HE STILL DOES

NOT HAVE CLUE

ONE AND (NEITHER DOES MALLOVE AND HIS PEOPLE BUILT AN OLD

OBSOLETE VERSION

WITH W's INSTRUCTIONS ) THAT I KNOW OF HOW IT FUNCTIONS AND

HE IS AN EE HIS

BIG EGO WOULD HAVE BEEN TOTALLY DEFLATED IF HE COULD NOT

HAVE EXPLAIED WHAT

HE SAW IF HE WAS ASKED TO DO SO BY ANYONE IS THE MAIN REASON

HE NEVER

SUPPORTED THESE SITUATIONS BECAUSE HE CANNOT DENY THEY

FUNCTION AS ADVERTISED

 

 

WE HAVE HIM ON TAPE SEEING IT OPERATIONAL  WITH DR. RALPH

CRUISE A WORLD

CLASS SMART PHYSICSTS  ALSO FROM VEGAS AS GARY IS AND 

DR.MARK JENNINGS A M.E

FROM CHICAGO  WE RECORD EVERYTHING SO SOMEONE CANNOT

DISPUTE LATER WHAT THEY

SAW

 

I THINK THEY BROUGHT TEST EQ. ALSO BUT THEY DID NOT BRING IN 

TO MEASURE IF

THEY DID I CAN STILL SEE  IN MY MIND RALPH CRUISE STANDING  UP

AND SAYING W

SHOULD BE A RECOGNIZED SCIENTIST THAT IS ON TAPE TO GARY I

WISH MY TRIP IN

JUNE TO THE WEST COAST WOULD HAVE TOOK ME THROUGH VEGAS

SO I COULD HAVE  SEEN

RALPH AGAIN WE REALLY LIKED HIM

 

GARY  IS SUPPOSED TO KNOW ABOUT ELECTRICAL SITUATIONS AS

YOU ARE TO ERIC 

YOU  JERRY AND GARY SHOULD HAVE A EE PP RUB WITH THAT REAL

IDIOT SARFATTI HE

CAN BRING HIS NOW WORTHLESS PHYSICS TO THE CIRCLE JERK 

REAL SMART NOT

SUPPORTING US GARY  YOU STILL CAN BUT YOUR TIME IS RUNNING

OUT FAST TO DO SO

 

GARY WHAT YOU SAW  OPERATIONAL HAS BEEN ADVANCED 

PROBABLY BEYOND YOUR

IMAGINATION MOTT AND KETTERING SAW THE NEW  PHASE

CONVERSION SITUATIONS IN

THE CONSTRUCTION STAGE THAT WILL BE  SELF CONTAINED 

MECHINICAL SITUATIONS

THAT WILL HANDLE ANY POWER REQUIREMENTS AND USE MODIFIED

SHELF EQ. THAT DOES

NOT VIOLATE ANY PATENTS

 

THE SELF CONTAINED ASPECT WILL PROBABLY BE THE SECOND STEP 

IT MAY NOT BE TO

SMART TO BRING OUT THAT ASPECT AS A FIRST STEP  NO JOKE GARY 

YOU HAVE BEEN

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAW  I KNOW YOU HAVE INVESTORS THAT

WILL FOLLOW YOU   IT

APPEARS  WE WILL BE SELLING BONDS AND DIVIDENDS WILL BE PAID

FROM THE SALE OF

PRODUCT AND WE ARE 150 MILLION SHORT OF THE 500 MILLION

GOAL WE NEED TO

LAUNCH 

 

I WILL RUN YOU OFF THE NET  GARY AFTER WE LAUNCH THE CO  BY

MAKING A FOOL

OUT OF YOU  AND YOUR EE KNOWLEDGE  PLUS CRUSH MALLOVES

PUBLICATION FOR NOT

PUB. WHAT THEY SAW BECAUSE THEN I WILL HAVE THE POWER TO DO

SO   BUT NOT IF

YOU STEP UP TO THE PLATE GARY AND GENE AND GET SMART 

WEATHER YOUR SITUATIONS

INVEST OR NOT   SO YOU TAKE A FEW LUMPS IN REGARD TO YOUR

BASE OF KNOWLEDGE

SO WHAT YOUR GOING TO TAKING THEM NO MATTER WHAT BUT YOU

COULD MAKE SOME

SERIOUS MONEY AT THE SAME TIME  BUT I CARE LESS WHAT YOU 

BOYS DO

 

AS I WILL RUN OFF  ERIC AND SARFATTI  THAT IS A PROMISE BOYS

YOU CAN TAKE

THAT TO THE UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE   NO ONE WILL PAY ATTENTION

TO YOU CLOWNS

ANYMORE  GENE WILL TAKE THE HARDEST HIT BECAUSE HE HAS A PUB.

THAT IS

BASICALLY SUPPORTED BY THE ARTHUR CLARKE FOUNDATION  THEY

WILL NOT BE TO

HAPPY WITH GENE  WHEN THEY FIND OUT HE BLEW IT  WILL THEY

GENE?? 

 

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR SUBS DROP TO ZERO  WHAT ARE GOING TO

DO THEN GENE ?? GO

BACK TO MIT YOU BURNED YOUR BRIDGES THERE WHEN YOU HAD

YOUR HISSY FIT AND

LEFT      THAT WILL BE REAL FUN CAUSING THAT SITUATION BECAUSE

YOU USE THE

NET TO PUFF UP YOUR GIANT EGO's SO THAT IS WHAT I USE AGAINST

YOU IS THE NET

AND YOUR EGO's

 

GARY YOU AND GENE COULD HAVE SAVED ME A GREAT DEAL OF TIME 

WITH THE

CONTACTS YOU HAVE AND MADE A NICE SUM OFF US TO   AFTER YOU

WERE HERE IN LATE

2000   AND YOUR  BOY GENE CAME IN THE SPRING OF 2001  BUS. 

SENSE IS ALL YOU

NEEDED TO DO SO  BOYS .  what preplexs me is why bruce meland has

not brought

investors to the table MAYBE JUST PUB. IS HIS ONLY INTEREST  WE

HAVE REALLY

APPRECIATED HIS SUPPORT HE WILL BE REWARDED FOR IT AS YOU

COULD HAVE BEEN

ALSO GENE BUT YOU HAD NO VISION AS BRUCE DID ONLY ARROGANCE

 

WHO CARES ABOUT THE SCI. ASPECT  BUT YOUR  BIG EE EGO GOT IN

YOUR WAY  GARY

AND YOUR SCI. EGO GOT IN YOURS GENE   PLUS  I COULD HAVE

AVOIDED DEALING WITH

IDIOTS LIKE ERIC KREIG WHO'S WANNA BE CLONES WILL NOT CHECK