his text is found at: http://www.voicenet.com/~eric/z/crime.txt The following is information retyped from the Washington State Attorney General's office. It is related to a court case against Dennis Lee aka Josiah David and his wife Alison David in relation to crimes alleged to have occurred through their business, C.O.N.S.E.R.V.E Charges were raised as part of the consumer protection act. Dennis asserts that all charges were the result of powerful Electric Companies fearful of competition. The following is a partial list of "stipulated findings of fact, conclusions of law, judgment and decree: During telephone solicitation, defendants' agent indicates that he or she is calling from either Northwest Utility Network, Seattle Utility Network or Project conserve. victims are told, "the program won't cost you a cent", "all costs will be borne by your energy supplier and the federal government" 1.9 In some instances consumers have reported actually being told that the product was endorsed or approved by their specific utility, such as Puget Power or by the BPA. 1.10 These and other statements made by the telephone solicitors have the tendency and capacity to mislead and in fact have misled some consumers into believing: 1. that they were speaking with a representative of a utility group or a non-profit or government sponsored energy conservation group. 2. that their utility would directly pay for the energy system. 3. that their utility had endorsed or approved of the system. etc. 1.11 1. that over 2000 systems have been installed nation-wide in seventeen states. But defendants often fail to disclose that these systems are not the same as alternative . . 3. that defendants are affiliated with an entity called the "Secured Speculation Fund" which defendants describe as a "limited partnership involving experts in the fields of tax law, engineering, marketing and banking "and which involves" a trust account with the capability of doing millions of dollars worth" of business. In fact such a fund does not exist for purposes of endorsing or investing in CONSERVE or financing the sale of the Alternative. . . .. . . .1. Individuals whose experiences are used to substantiate these claims do not necessarily have a CONSERVE installed Alternative system in use. 1.14 Defendants and their agents have stated unequivocally to consumers that the alternative will qualify for the federal energy tax credit. Due to defendants strong belief that the Alternative does qualify, defendants have often failed to disclose that some controversy exists over whether their system does qualify for the federal energy tax credit. << there is a lot of legalese saying Dennis claimed power companies endorsed Dennis's program who did not>> 2. "Our system was approved by Indiana and Michigan Electric company on the first attempt. Their engineer said 'even a fool can see that solar refridgeration has to work at least as well as a heat pump just from the design.'"; In truth and fact, Indiana and Michigan companies have denied at any time approving defendants system or making any statement such as the one quoted above. 3) "The [Indiana] Governor's office of Economic Development has rolled out a red carpet to Conserve." Infact there is no such office of Economic Development of the state of Indiana. Authorities in the Division of Energy Policy of the Commerce Dept, (which is under the auspices of the Lt. Governor's office and deals with companies such as CONSERVE are unfamiliar with defendants 1.17 Defendants sold systems to some consumers upon the representation that installation would be completed within a specified period of time. In fact defendants have not in all cases installed systems with in the time frame promised. 1.19 Defendants have represented that utility companies were responsible for the bringing of this lawsuit ---------------------------------- blah blah blah. . there was lots more conclusions drawn by the court (ones that don't appear on Dennis's voluminous writings. another category was JUDGMENT AND DECREE: I think these are basically court orders to Dennis, many of which (in my opinion) have been ignored -------------------------- 3.2 Defendants and each of them are hereby permanently enjoined and restrained in the State of Washington from engaging in the following conduct in connection with their sale of the Alternative: , , , pursuant to rcw 19.86.080 defendants shall A. install prior to Dec 31 1985 all systems sold before Nov 1 1985. B. Provide refunds to any person who no longer owns the home on which the system was installed. C. Credit customer with their monthly installment payment for each month that the system was not installed after their contract was signed. E. Provide to any customer whose tax credit is disapproved a refund equal to the amount owing by the customer to the IRS a refund equal to the amount owing by the customer to the IRS as a result of the disapproval of the tax credit; . . . 3.4 Pursuant to RCW 19.85.140, plaintiff, State of Washington shall recover from defendants civil penalties of $25,000; provided . . . ---- end of quotes from legal documents. ---------- Once again I offer to post Dennis's response to the Attorney Generals statements in this document. Other documents implied that Dennis took in new money knowing full well that systems would not be shipped before the deadline to qualify for IRS credits. One statement said Dennis only installed a few systems, but took in money from people for hundreds of systems never installed. Dennis would likely say that the suit against him is what stopped the business. I find it interesting that Dennis has a long running pattern of leaving out very critical information, confusing people with names of businesses, making references to non-existent sources of funding, promising early delivery schedules when convincing people to hand over money. It looks to me that the state of Washington was very thorough, but like most of our justice system were way too lenient. I feel bleeding heart liberals have too long contaminated our laws and enforcement. We all hear stories of rapists, child molesters, robbers and murders, who regularly commit a major crime - get a year worth of free food, housing and medical care at our expense and then are out to prey on us again. I have little confidence the NJ attorney generals office will do much better. With the exception of Texas, I think these coddling judges want the crooks out easy so they can get more work after they commit more crimes and reenter the system. I think this travesty of justice with common people being killed or tricked out of their life's savings will continue until decent law-abiding people stand up and decide we won't take it anymore.